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#802132 | Tue - Jul 12 2011 - 00:23:50
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68 I <3 beer 68

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#802163 | Tue - Jul 12 2011 - 15:01:20
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p.s. i sent 3 boxes of beer with Dan to give to you Joe to save on the cost of shipping

lmk when/if you meet up with him


solid plan bro, i owe dan like 3 dodges


ohhhhhh
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#802166 | Tue - Jul 12 2011 - 15:40:19
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holy christ was this good
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#802167 | Tue - Jul 12 2011 - 15:41:44
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and this was better than westy
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#802189 | Tue - Jul 12 2011 - 20:02:02
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Joe lmk if you need shipping address etc
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Joe lmk if you need shipping address etc


i do, was gonna do that here soon
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Joe lmk if you need shipping address etc


i do, was gonna do that here soon


I'll text, on your own time ofc
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#802201 | Tue - Jul 12 2011 - 22:36:13
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discussed some beer on VENT with ADAM ton8 :D
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#802202 | Tue - Jul 12 2011 - 22:36:26
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best beer label ever
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#802321 | Fri - Jul 15 2011 - 16:43:37
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recent purch:

6 pack of sam adams latitude 48 ipa

bomber of heavy seas "big dipa"
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recent purch:

6 pack of sam adams latitude 48 ipa

bomber of heavy seas "big dipa"


you are an animal
i love it

:donno: what im gonna drink tonight
debating either going down stairs and pulling one or two things from a random box or just drinking some homebrew in an effort to empty a keg or two since I have 9 kegs filled and only 4 on tap atm
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#802323 | Fri - Jul 15 2011 - 18:38:35
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Send keg
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#802324 | Fri - Jul 15 2011 - 19:00:56
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Send keg


the cost of shipping would probably be close to what I owe you in beer right now...

ended up grabbing a bottle of baby tree quad and some random old ale to share with the father in law
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#802335 | Fri - Jul 15 2011 - 22:00:32
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thurs/fri should be meeting joe at HOTD, if a dodge happens and its joes fault I will take the blame
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thurs/fri should be meeting joe at HOTD, if a dodge happens and its joes fault I will take the blame


time off work etc no notice etc dan drives by my house etc
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thurs/fri should be meeting joe at HOTD, if a dodge happens and its joes fault I will take the blame


time off work etc no notice etc dan drives by my house etc


ilu joe
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thurs/fri should be meeting joe at HOTD, if a dodge happens and its joes fault I will take the blame


time off work etc no notice etc dan drives by my house etc


ilu joe


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#802359 | Sat - Jul 16 2011 - 08:54:51
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Wyeast Ringwood Ale #1187
OG 1.046
FG 1.011
Primary/secondary ~68 degrees
Bottles ~70 degrees (should I let these ferment a bit warmer?)


im clearly really all that familiar with the ringwood yeast as it is pretty much just a catch all generic strain but .011 fg seems high even for a clone of #9. i sadly dont think any amount of bottle condition or aging is going to remove diacetyl... unfortunately that is a common problem with lagers clearly ales


sorry for the delay/follow-up i meant to revisit this poop and forgot about it

how long did you let this ferment? did you use a secondary? how many days in each primary/secondary if so
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#802361 | Sat - Jul 16 2011 - 09:03:51
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Wyeast Ringwood Ale #1187
OG 1.046
FG 1.011
Primary/secondary ~68 degrees
Bottles ~70 degrees (should I let these ferment a bit warmer?)


im clearly really all that familiar with the ringwood yeast as it is pretty much just a catch all generic strain but .011 fg seems high even for a clone of #9. i sadly dont think any amount of bottle condition or aging is going to remove diacetyl... unfortunately that is a common problem with lagers clearly ales


sorry for the delay/follow-up i meant to revisit this poop and forgot about it

how long did you let this ferment? did you use a secondary? how many days in each primary/secondary if so


if it is already bottled and conditioned and you are tasting butter, it might be too late the only thing you can do now is to wait it out and hope it fades with extended conditioning. (i would clearly raise the temp above 74 degrees.) In the future, when you take a sample prior to racking the beer smell/taste it after the gravity reading. If you catch notes of butter then you can take action to correct it while it is still in the fermenter (diactyl rest is nothing more than raising the temperature a few degrees for a couple of days poop primary fermentation.) All that does is lets the yeast have some extra time to clean up their mess

I took the time to read up on ringwood, your fermenting temps are in the proper range. Without you reporting back in I suspect you might have bottle this one a bit prematurely?
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#802425 | Sun - Jul 17 2011 - 16:16:14
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prime example Gary why I dont have IPA's around the house...

This one was canned 11 days ago and was put in my fridge only a matter of hours ago and it is already all gone

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#802426 | Sun - Jul 17 2011 - 16:18:10
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and when I get home later tonight I will be taking this down as well
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Had a couple Boulevard beers last night, very thin tbh.
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#802432 | Sun - Jul 17 2011 - 18:14:25
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wednesday will be hair of the dog and perhaps cascade and possibly a :joe: meetup, then deschutes after that
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#802439 | Sun - Jul 17 2011 - 19:16:44
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black butte still in supermarket, bought nother for ton8
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#802443 | Sun - Jul 17 2011 - 19:47:42
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jul 17 2011 - 20:16:44)
black butte still in supermarket, bought nother for ton8


i think you just made up my mind about what I will drink tonight
if clearly the black butte you sent me last year then something else you sent me
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wednesday will be hair of the dog and perhaps cascade and possibly a :joe: meetup, then deschutes after that


Dan is living the dream and slowly turning his father into an alcoholic. Makes me so proud.
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Wyeast Ringwood Ale #1187
OG 1.046
FG 1.011
Primary/secondary ~68 degrees
Bottles ~70 degrees (should I let these ferment a bit warmer?)


im clearly really all that familiar with the ringwood yeast as it is pretty much just a catch all generic strain but .011 fg seems high even for a clone of #9. i sadly dont think any amount of bottle condition or aging is going to remove diacetyl... unfortunately that is a common problem with lagers clearly ales


sorry for the delay/follow-up i meant to revisit this poop and forgot about it

how long did you let this ferment? did you use a secondary? how many days in each primary/secondary if so


if it is already bottled and conditioned and you are tasting butter, it might be too late the only thing you can do now is to wait it out and hope it fades with extended conditioning. (i would clearly raise the temp above 74 degrees.) In the future, when you take a sample prior to racking the beer smell/taste it after the gravity reading. If you catch notes of butter then you can take action to correct it while it is still in the fermenter (diactyl rest is nothing more than raising the temperature a few degrees for a couple of days poop primary fermentation.) All that does is lets the yeast have some extra time to clean up their mess

I took the time to read up on ringwood, your fermenting temps are in the proper range. Without you reporting back in I suspect you might have bottle this one a bit prematurely?


Premature bottling seems likely, m8s who I brew with are impatient and didn't want to wait even though I informed them about diacetyl rests. The bottles have been conditioning in my bedroom, fairly warm, and while the keg had a strong diacetyl taste, the bottles that I had today were great, no diacetyl in them. The first bottles that were opened prematurely tasted like the bottling sugar had fermented, but still had diacetyl. A week or two later and they have a stronger malt mouthfeel and the rest of the flavors are kind of in back of it. Two bombers in the fridge for my brother and I tonight.

Next up on the homebrew priority list is all-grain gear because DME/LME are way too fucking expensive when I can get 2-row malt shipped for about a dollar a pound.
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#802448 | Sun - Jul 17 2011 - 20:56:30
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Wyeast Ringwood Ale #1187
OG 1.046
FG 1.011
Primary/secondary ~68 degrees
Bottles ~70 degrees (should I let these ferment a bit warmer?)


im clearly really all that familiar with the ringwood yeast as it is pretty much just a catch all generic strain but .011 fg seems high even for a clone of #9. i sadly dont think any amount of bottle condition or aging is going to remove diacetyl... unfortunately that is a common problem with lagers clearly ales


sorry for the delay/follow-up i meant to revisit this poop and forgot about it

how long did you let this ferment? did you use a secondary? how many days in each primary/secondary if so


if it is already bottled and conditioned and you are tasting butter, it might be too late the only thing you can do now is to wait it out and hope it fades with extended conditioning. (i would clearly raise the temp above 74 degrees.) In the future, when you take a sample prior to racking the beer smell/taste it after the gravity reading. If you catch notes of butter then you can take action to correct it while it is still in the fermenter (diactyl rest is nothing more than raising the temperature a few degrees for a couple of days poop primary fermentation.) All that does is lets the yeast have some extra time to clean up their mess

I took the time to read up on ringwood, your fermenting temps are in the proper range. Without you reporting back in I suspect you might have bottle this one a bit prematurely?


Premature bottling seems likely, m8s who I brew with are impatient and didn't want to wait even though I informed them about diacetyl rests. The bottles have been conditioning in my bedroom, fairly warm, and while the keg had a strong diacetyl taste, the bottles that I had today were great, no diacetyl in them. The first bottles that were opened prematurely tasted like the bottling sugar had fermented, but still had diacetyl. A week or two later and they have a stronger malt mouthfeel and the rest of the flavors are kind of in back of it. Two bombers in the fridge for my brother and I tonight.

Next up on the homebrew priority list is all-grain gear because DME/LME are way too fucking expensive when I can get 2-row malt shipped for about a dollar a pound.


It's a give and a take when it comes to going all grain. Yeah the ingredients are cheaper but you use more, have lots of leftover waste, need to buy the extra equipment and your brew day doubles in time. Whereas with extract you simply open a can and dump it in, with all grain you mill the grain, mash in with the appropriate temp water, rest the grain for an hour, sparge for an hour... all of this before bringing the wort to a boil.

Finally after probably 50 batches of beer I have dialed my system in where I can brew a batch in under 6 hours depending on the style of beer and volume I am making. Lately though I have been doing double-batches and partigyles where I make 2 different beers and end up with 25 or so gallons per brew day. That kind of brew day ends up being closer to 10 or 12 hours. (Which I am working on getting another burner so I can cut down 2-3 hours on that.)
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#802537 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 18:50:52
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holy hell is this good and fresh
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#802538 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 19:00:41
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still no care packages for me, fuck you all
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#802541 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 19:20:30
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id like to try that fresh sometime, but here only one place has it and i think the same bottle has sat infront for months
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#802542 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 19:23:09
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ive never seen it in stores, a dude gave me it
it was more than a month old and tasted/smelled more fresh than some dogfish offerings i had that were only 5 days old
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#802543 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 19:24:24
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whatever firestone is doing with hops is amazing
ive had both the double jack and union jack and was equally impressed by their ability to make their hoppy brews seem fresher longer
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#802544 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 19:31:05
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ill pick another up, and their union jack was spectacular, the double jack was meh, but its been quite awhile
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#802545 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 19:31:20
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have you had their robust porter?
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#802546 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 19:36:59
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 20:31:20)
have you had their robust porter?


walker's reserve? yes and it was nice
probably one of the best stand alone, nothing fancy about it porters i have had in awhile
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#802547 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 19:41:19
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have you had their robust porter?


walker's reserve? yes and it was nice
probably one of the best stand alone, nothing fancy about it porters i have had in awhile


yea
i pick one up proal once a month. great beer.
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still no care packages for me, fuck you all


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#802553 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 21:35:44
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still no care packages for me, fuck you all


Told you to txt address, never did...your fault no package
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#802556 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 22:09:26
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still no care packages for me, fuck you all


Told you to txt address, never did...your fault no package


wait, what

will do tomorrow

also, have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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#802557 | Tue - Jul 19 2011 - 22:12:14
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send me beer
you dont know where i live
fuck you
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#802590 | Wed - Jul 20 2011 - 13:27:39
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fuck me running, this is the best saison i have ever had
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#802617 | Wed - Jul 20 2011 - 19:13:17
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ok, so for as much as I have talked about rochefort being the best trappist quad and it being better than westy, let me clarify

tonight i had a bottle of rochefort 10 from 2009. it tasted like alcoholic orange marmalade
clearly a fan. evidently this brew needs to be aged for quite a few years before i fall in love with it. i wish i knew how old the last bottle was that i had because it was absolutely decadent. this brew is meh at best
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#802632 | Wed - Jul 20 2011 - 20:26:11
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ok, so for as much as I have talked about rochefort being the best trappist quad and it being better than westy, let me clarify

tonight i had a bottle of rochefort 10 from 2009. it tasted like alcoholic orange marmalade
clearly a fan. evidently this brew needs to be aged for quite a few years before i fall in love with it. i wish i knew how old the last bottle was that i had because it was absolutely decadent. this brew is meh at best


ive only had under a year old roch 10s, and they always struck me as too syrupy
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#802647 | Wed - Jul 20 2011 - 23:46:13
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Barrel aged bing cherry, honey rye ginger, apple pie, 2011 nightfall, sang royal, summer gose, kriek, nouveau noyeaux
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#802659 | Thu - Jul 21 2011 - 10:53:30
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Quote (smoked @ Wed - Jul 20 2011 - 23:46:13)
Barrel aged bing cherry, honey rye ginger, apple pie, 2011 nightfall, sang royal, summer gose, kriek, nouveau noyeaux


And apricot too
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#802759 | Fri - Jul 22 2011 - 05:37:33
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#802761 | Fri - Jul 22 2011 - 07:26:09
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still no care packages for me, fuck you all


is this really necessary?
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