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#866574 | Wed - Apr 24 2013 - 22:24:17
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oh 2
why clearly
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#866575 | Wed - Apr 24 2013 - 22:40:26
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Quote (xstakemx @ Wed - Apr 24 2013 - 20:22:49)
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there is also a growler only bar near my house that i never knew about.  they rarely advertise it seems, and are clearly visible to the main drag (little strip mall off to the side behind other buildings).  30 taps of mostly nw, mostly non bottled beer.  $10-12/64 oz.

whelp


stop dragging feet, get there!

DISO your opinion about boneyard brewing too btw since my friend was out there and claimed it to be the highlight of the trip. i think they had a pale ale or ipa that was flirting in the top ranks for awhile on BA


they currently have a boneyard brew, diablo rojo. the plus side of this is eventually they will get the top notch ones. i hope!
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#866647 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 20:09:06
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that growler place is vn1. only been there 7 weeks, so i have clearly missed out on too much.
im going to be a regular needless to say, its .5 miles away!
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#866651 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 22:11:04
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also, bomber of stone espresso RIS
tasty
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#866652 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 22:50:52
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Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:11:04)
also, bomber of stone espresso RIS
tasty


you fucking shit eater!

i started calling places for it on monday and got the old "it is being delivered this week"
called back on wednesday and was told thursday or friday it would arrive
called today "we only placed the order yesterday and the wholesaler is sold out, we wont get it till next week"

said fuck you and called the wholesaler
wholesaler told me it hasnt even come in yet from stone

bum bum bummmmmmmmmmmm
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#866653 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:22:26
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Quote (xstakemx @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 20:50:52)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:11:04)
also, bomber of stone espresso RIS
tasty


you fucking shit eater!

i started calling places for it on monday and got the old "it is being delivered this week"
called back on wednesday and was told thursday or friday it would arrive
called today "we only placed the order yesterday and the wholesaler is sold out, we wont get it till next week"

said fuck you and called the wholesaler
wholesaler told me it hasnt even come in yet from stone

bum bum bummmmmmmmmmmm


okay, ill get you one lol
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#866654 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:24:00
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i assume its due to the absolute freshness, but the espresso is in your face. the ris is total backseat. i imagine this changes with time, though ive never aged a coffee beer.
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#866656 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:35:49
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Quote (xstakemx @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 20:50:52)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:11:04)
also, bomber of stone espresso RIS
tasty


you fucking shit eater!

i started calling places for it on monday and got the old "it is being delivered this week"
called back on wednesday and was told thursday or friday it would arrive
called today "we only placed the order yesterday and the wholesaler is sold out, we wont get it till next week"

said fuck you and called the wholesaler
wholesaler told me it hasnt even come in yet from stone

bum bum bummmmmmmmmmmm


okay, ill get you one lol


no need. if it really is produced to the level that the "odd beers for odd years" is, we will most likely get it next week. too many establishments know about it for this to be something we dont get. i do appreciate the offer though
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#866658 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:37:52
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - Apr 27 2013 - 00:24:00)
i assume its due to the absolute freshness, but the espresso is in your face.  the ris is total backseat.  i imagine this changes with time, though ive never aged a coffee beer.


coffee fades just slightly slower than the rate that hops do in an ipa. however, the way that the coffee was introduced in the beer plays a big part in it's ability to be less volatile.

ie: aged over coffee beans verse strong coffee added to the brew itself
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#866661 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:42:39
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Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 22:11:04)
also, bomber of stone espresso RIS
tasty


gonna try to pick this up tomorrow
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#866662 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:44:55
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Quote (xstakemx @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 21:37:52)
Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - Apr 27 2013 - 00:24:00)
i assume its due to the absolute freshness, but the espresso is in your face.  the ris is total backseat.  i imagine this changes with time, though ive never aged a coffee beer.


coffee fades just slightly slower than the rate that hops do in an ipa. however, the way that the coffee was introduced in the beer plays a big part in it's ability to be less volatile.

ie: aged over coffee beans verse strong coffee added to the brew itself



so aged over ingredients last longer than brewed with ingredients? or is this coffee specific?
either way, as of week 1 this was an espresso ris all the way, but mighty tasty
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#866663 | Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:45:57
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Quote (smoked @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 21:42:39)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 22:11:04)
also, bomber of stone espresso RIS
tasty


gonna try to pick this up tomorrow


im sure you will have 5th wheel problems and be forced to have repairs in-town but clearly be able to coordinate the time to buy this...
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#866669 | Sat - Apr 27 2013 - 00:33:20
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Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 23:45:57)
Quote (smoked @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 21:42:39)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 22:11:04)
also, bomber of stone espresso RIS
tasty


gonna try to pick this up tomorrow


im sure you will have 5th wheel problems and be forced to have repairs in-town but clearly be able to coordinate the time to buy this...


fk you
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#866670 | Sat - Apr 27 2013 - 06:53:03
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Quote (smoked @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 22:33:20)
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Quote (smoked @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 21:42:39)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 26 2013 - 22:11:04)
also, bomber of stone espresso RIS
tasty


gonna try to pick this up tomorrow


im sure you will have 5th wheel problems and be forced to have repairs in-town but clearly be able to coordinate the time to buy this...


fk you


<3
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#866671 | Sat - Apr 27 2013 - 07:55:11
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i assume its due to the absolute freshness, but the espresso is in your face.  the ris is total backseat.  i imagine this changes with time, though ive never aged a coffee beer.


coffee fades just slightly slower than the rate that hops do in an ipa. however, the way that the coffee was introduced in the beer plays a big part in it's ability to be less volatile.

ie: aged over coffee beans verse strong coffee added to the brew itself



so aged over ingredients last longer than brewed with ingredients? or is this coffee specific?
either way, as of week 1 this was an espresso ris all the way, but mighty tasty


i honestly have no idea which way to use the coffee in the brewing or aging process makes it last longer. it is an experiment i am planning on doing sometime. ive had some coffee beers that seeming lost all coffee character after a year where the coffee like dissolved into the roastiness of the grain to the point where you couldnt really tell coffee was added. you know how some stouts have that roasted character that seems like coffee or chocolate without it actually being added?

then there are other coffee beers that at 4 years old taste like the coffee was added to it that morning. the beer im specifically thinking of is called vortex by pisgah in north carolina

dome brewers are very open sbout their beers and the brewing process. i bet if we made a list of favorites we could send some emails and get a good starting point for an experiment

some usage of coffee ive thought about was:
grinding it and adding it to the mash (150-175 would be the highest temperature for an hour, then it would be boiled)
adding to the end of the boil or at flameout (it would be at boiling temps temporarily and drop to 70 degrees)
adding it just to the fermenter for extended aging (70 degrees would be highest temp)
this last would could be either grind coffee beans, whole beans or a strong brewed coffee thats added


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#866752 | Tue - Apr 30 2013 - 11:28:37
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i had a batch 19 on like saturday
first beer in a while
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i assume its due to the absolute freshness, but the espresso is in your face.  the ris is total backseat.  i imagine this changes with time, though ive never aged a coffee beer.


coffee fades just slightly slower than the rate that hops do in an ipa. however, the way that the coffee was introduced in the beer plays a big part in it's ability to be less volatile.

ie: aged over coffee beans verse strong coffee added to the brew itself



so aged over ingredients last longer than brewed with ingredients? or is this coffee specific?
either way, as of week 1 this was an espresso ris all the way, but mighty tasty


i honestly have no idea which way to use the coffee in the brewing or aging process makes it last longer. it is an experiment i am planning on doing sometime. ive had some coffee beers that seeming lost all coffee character after a year where the coffee like dissolved into the roastiness of the grain to the point where you couldnt really tell coffee was added. you know how some stouts have that roasted character that seems like coffee or chocolate without it actually being added?

then there are other coffee beers that at 4 years old taste like the coffee was added to it that morning. the beer im specifically thinking of is called vortex by pisgah in north carolina

dome brewers are very open sbout their beers and the brewing process. i bet if we made a list of favorites we could send some emails and get a good starting point for an experiment

some usage of coffee ive thought about was:
grinding it and adding it to the mash (150-175 would be the highest temperature for an hour, then it would be boiled)
adding to the end of the boil or at flameout (it would be at boiling temps temporarily and drop to 70 degrees)
adding it just to the fermenter for extended aging (70 degrees would be highest temp)
this last would could be either grind coffee beans, whole beans or a strong brewed coffee thats added


pisgah is in nc??

i was in ashville about 2 weeks ago and had some "triple" whatever beer they had on tap

i don't remember what it was, i could figure it out if i was arsed to take the 10 minutes of google searching to do it

the beer from pisgah that i had that day at lunch was fucking delicisous
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#867165 | Wed - May 8 2013 - 21:54:38
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growler place just tapped 3 ipas i really like
sigh
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#867168 | Wed - May 8 2013 - 22:10:40
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Might buy some beer next weekend. I probably deserve it.
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#867170 | Wed - May 8 2013 - 23:02:41
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Quote (blind_chief @ Wed - May 8 2013 - 21:54:38)
growler place just tapped 3 ipas i really like
sigh


first world beer problems
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#867211 | Thu - May 9 2013 - 21:28:09
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growler place just tapped 3 ipas i really like
sigh


first world beer problems


yea, tell me about it
and im holding off beer until saturday, so they will proal be gone
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#867263 | Fri - May 10 2013 - 19:08:09
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drinking now, just like every other day. :D
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Quote (hapycmpr @ Fri - May 10 2013 - 19:08:09)
drinking now, just like every other day. :D


you too... are we surprised ?? btw what the hell are we supposed to do here ?
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#867276 | Fri - May 10 2013 - 19:58:25
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 9 2013 - 19:28:09)
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Quote (blind_chief @ Wed - May 8 2013 - 21:54:38)
growler place just tapped 3 ipas i really like
sigh


first world beer problems


yea, tell me about it
and im holding off beer until saturday, so they will proal be gone


friday*
2 bombers workhorse ipa
bomber stone espresso ris
bomber 2013 parabola
growler alpha centori ipa
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#867280 | Fri - May 10 2013 - 20:14:58
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Quote (blind_chief @ Wed - May 8 2013 - 21:54:38)
growler place just tapped 3 ipas i really like
sigh


first world beer problems


yea, tell me about it
and im holding off beer until saturday, so they will proal be gone


friday*
2 bombers workhorse ipa
bomber stone espresso ris
bomber 2013 parabola
growler alpha centori ipa


thats a lot to drink, but i think you can do it
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#867281 | Fri - May 10 2013 - 20:31:09
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Quote (randomtask @ Fri - May 10 2013 - 18:14:58)
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 9 2013 - 19:28:09)
Quote (smoked @ Wed - May 8 2013 - 21:02:41)
Quote (blind_chief @ Wed - May 8 2013 - 21:54:38)
growler place just tapped 3 ipas i really like
sigh


first world beer problems


yea, tell me about it
and im holding off beer until saturday, so they will proal be gone


friday*
2 bombers workhorse ipa
bomber stone espresso ris
bomber 2013 parabola
growler alpha centori ipa


thats a lot to drink, but i think you can do it


i hope its a 2 day amount, maybe even one left for sunday
im clearly sure though :(
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#867282 | Fri - May 10 2013 - 20:35:09
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i hope i can stretch out a months supply of beer to 2 days, but im clearly sure i have the willpower to do so
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#867284 | Fri - May 10 2013 - 21:01:17
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Quote (Sgull @ Fri - May 10 2013 - 18:35:09)
i hope i can stretch out a months supply of beer to 2 days, but im clearly sure i have the willpower to do so


4 bombers and a growler is a month? lol, only in my youth!
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#867285 | Fri - May 10 2013 - 21:01:29
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also, they just tapped another keg of hp venom....
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#867456 | Sun - May 12 2013 - 08:27:59
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interesting map on beer tax

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#867656 | Fri - May 17 2013 - 06:42:17
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Have clearly had a beer in 8 days. Im contemplating going for 30 but with Memorial day next weekend, its pretty much a lost cause.
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Have clearly had a beer in 8 days. Im contemplating going for 30 but with Memorial day next weekend, its pretty much a lost cause.


wb
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Have clearly had a beer in 8 days. Im contemplating going for 30 but with Memorial day next weekend, its pretty much a lost cause.


wb


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#867670 | Fri - May 17 2013 - 17:31:20
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Drinking tonight. Should be fun.
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Fri - May 17 2013 - 15:31:20)
Drinking tonight. Should be fun.


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#867678 | Fri - May 17 2013 - 23:35:44
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If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?
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If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


please explain and get on vent
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#867680 | Fri - May 17 2013 - 23:40:37
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If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


please explain and get on vent


10:39 PM - zerkcies: dont get on vent
10:40 PM - smoked: ok, i wont
10:40 PM - zerkcies: PLEASE GET ON VENT
10:40 PM - smoked: IM GETTING MIXED SIGNALS HERE BRAH
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If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


please explain and get on vent


10:39 PM - zerkcies: dont get on vent
10:40 PM - smoked: ok, i wont
10:40 PM - zerkcies: PLEASE GET ON VENT
10:40 PM - smoked: IM GETTING MIXED SIGNALS HERE BRAH


get on faggot
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If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


please explain and get on vent


10:39 PM - zerkcies: dont get on vent
10:40 PM - smoked: ok, i wont
10:40 PM - zerkcies: PLEASE GET ON VENT
10:40 PM - smoked: IM GETTING MIXED SIGNALS HERE BRAH


get on faggot


ohh, sorry, our 5th wheel is broke and i can only stop by your doorstep whilst you are at work"
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#867686 | Sat - May 18 2013 - 14:06:31
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Quote (smoked @ Sat - May 18 2013 - 00:35:44)
If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


i will try m8. the bastards put the limit at 1 bottle a person and i have clearly made it there yet
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#867689 | Sat - May 18 2013 - 15:07:05
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If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


i will try m8. the bastards put the limit at 1 bottle a person and i have clearly made it there yet


Yeah, I assumed as much if you can get one just for me cool if clearly clearly a biggie
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If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


i will try m8. the bastards put the limit at 1 bottle a person and i have clearly made it there yet


Yeah, I assumed as much if you can get one just for me cool if clearly clearly a biggie


Sold out disregard
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If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


i will try m8. the bastards put the limit at 1 bottle a person and i have clearly made it there yet


Yeah, I assumed as much if you can get one just for me cool if clearly clearly a biggie


Sold out disregard


So this is what beer has become in our area. A brew I have been excited about having again for over 3 years. Released without notice and gone before I even get there. Fucking awesome.
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If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


i will try m8. the bastards put the limit at 1 bottle a person and i have clearly made it there yet


Yeah, I assumed as much if you can get one just for me cool if clearly clearly a biggie


Sold out disregard


So this is what beer has become in our area. A brew I have been excited about having again for over 3 years. Released without notice and gone before I even get there. Fucking awesome.


I suppose I shouldnt be so made. I was lucky enough to enjoy the original batch and in the back of my mind I knew this was possible. I mean, up until the move to Hershey, I got to try every scratch beer they made. Now, the crowds that roll in and out there every day make the scratches dissolve in 24 hours.

Of the last 5 scratch beers released, I think I tried 1 of them.
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#867714 | Sun - May 19 2013 - 14:47:42
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Quote (smoked @ Sat - May 18 2013 - 00:35:44)
If you get a chance adam, can you pick me up 1 splinter gold?


i will try m8. the bastards put the limit at 1 bottle a person and i have clearly made it there yet


Yeah, I assumed as much if you can get one just for me cool if clearly clearly a biggie


Sold out disregard


So this is what beer has become in our area. A brew I have been excited about having again for over 3 years. Released without notice and gone before I even get there. Fucking awesome.


I suppose I shouldnt be so made. I was lucky enough to enjoy the original batch and in the back of my mind I knew this was possible. I mean, up until the move to Hershey, I got to try every scratch beer they made. Now, the crowds that roll in and out there every day make the scratches dissolve in 24 hours.

Of the last 5 scratch beers released, I think I tried 1 of them.


Shits crazy, boy it wouldve been nice to know someone who worked at troegs and coulda told you like a certain Irishman..
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#867847 | Tue - May 21 2013 - 13:03:05
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quite tasty, housed the entire bottle in under 20mins it seemed last night
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#867850 | Tue - May 21 2013 - 13:48:10
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quite tasty, housed the entire bottle in under 20mins it seemed last night


how many batches of this have they made?
one would hope/assume they have modified the recipe and improved it from what i remember
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