in this thread i dissect lol from wikipedia page to try to form an opinion on it

Differences from DotA

Although the gameplay of League of Legends is very similar to DotA (Defense of the Ancients), there are numerous tweaks that make its gameplay unique and user-friendly.
New in LoL:
One central Merchant to purchase all items in a user-friendly tree.
Player can select two summoner spells in combination with any character.
All Champions have access to the 'recall' ability to return to their base.
Ability to buy a complete item from a single inventory slot.
Brush. Tall grass is located at key points throughout the map and walking into it makes you invisible to any opponent not in the grass. This can be used for juking much like the fog of war in DotA.
Ability Power is a stat which will add damage to your spells just like attack damage makes your auto attacks more powerful. (There are also spells which use your attack damage to gain more damage.)
Certain stats are shown when you have an enemy selected: Attack Damage, Ability Power, Movement Speed, Armor, Magic Resistance, Attack Speed.
When you use a spell or hover over its icon on your spell bar a circle will show up which indicates the effective range of the spell.
Lay out of map is different, with different monsters, more minions to kill
There is a 3v3 map (with 2 lanes) in addition to the 5v5 DotA like map.
New, improved tower AI that follows a simple algorithm.
Not in LoL:
Denying creeps or towers (and in certain situations heroes).
Loss of gold upon death.
Buyback after death
Raised elevation (Fog of War changes due to elevation in DotA)
Dynamic Terrain (DotA has trees which block movement/vision, the trees can be destroyed by certain spells)
Both in LoL and DotA however different mechanics:
Runes are present in both LoL and DotA. In LoL Runes are obtained by killing certain neutrals on the map (The Lizard Buff for Red and The Golemn Buff for Blue, the red runes attach a slow and damage over time where as the blue rune increases mana regeneration and lowers cooldowns on spells). There are also other runes depending on the map. In DotA runes (also referred as power ups) are found on the river, which randomly spawn on either the East or West side of the river. There are 5 types of runes which can be obtained (Haste rune gives maximum movespeed, Illusion rune gives 2 illusions, Double Damage rune doubles your damage, Regeneration runes heal heroes and Invisibility rune makes you invisible)
Baron Nashor. He is similar to DotA's Roshan, but on death gives team-wide XP, and gold, and a buff that increases damage and regen.
Inhibitors (the equivalent of Barracks in DotA) respawn after a set amount of time. Killing an inhibitor only spawns one super minion in the lane per creep wave. If you destroy all of an opposing team's inhibitors each lane will spawn two super minions per creep wave.

first thought; this is dota for casuals

maybe less tedious, but this type of game is built around tension and macromanagement

not a bad thought tbh, but i enjoy it far more than i ever enjoyed dota

must be a casual

still plenty of tension and macromanagement.

the user friendly merchant is probably my biggest+ in my opinion of the game

also that i can actually tell which characters do what

microtransactions system seems to be the same as every game using that financial model, give perks to the people who pay your salary, make the people who want to play for free feel cheated

ok, this is definitely dota for casuals

yeah, basically.

i will still enjoy playing it though so og;dc

enjoy elitism

One central Merchant to purchase all items in a user-friendly tree.
pros; simplicity / smaller learning curve
cons; no strategy required in planning most efficient paths of gearing
verdict: pro-casual

Player can select two summoner spells in combination with any character.
pros/cons; a persistent gameplay element that spans different hero choices
verdict: different/none

All Champions have access to the 'recall' ability to return to their base.
pros; no need to rely on town portals/running back to base
cons; no strategy related to above
verdict: pro-casual

Ability to buy a complete item from a single inventory slot.
pros; simpler, no juggling items around to complete recipes
cons; in addition to the one-stop-shop, less strategic
verdict: not really significant on its own

Brush. Tall grass is located at key points throughout the map and walking into it makes you invisible to any opponent not in the grass. This can be used for juking much like the fog of war in DotA.
pros; different opportunities for setting up ambushes/defense/etc
cons; dont need to rely on the landscape of the map
verdict: different, seems more random, less moving = more boring

Ability Power is a stat which will add damage to your spells just like attack damage makes your auto attacks more powerful. (There are also spells which use your attack damage to gain more damage.)
pros/cons; allows casters vs melee to be more equally balanced
verdict: depends on its implementation in balancing

Certain stats are shown when you have an enemy selected: Attack Damage, Ability Power, Movement Speed, Armor, Magic Resistance, Attack Speed.
pros; simpler / smaller learning curve
cons; dont need to rely on recognition of characters and their item builds
verdict: pro-casual

When you use a spell or hover over its icon on your spell bar a circle will show up which indicates the effective range of the spell.
pros/cons; different interface element, allows easier planning, lower learning curve for each individual character, probably better to encourage people to not play the same 3 characters over and over again
verdict: neutral on this one




Not in LoL:

Denying creeps or towers (and in certain situations heroes).
pros/cons (depending on perspective); simpler, slower game
verdict: CASUALS

Loss of gold upon death.
pros/cons (depending on perspective); simpler, places less importance on keeping yourself alive
verdict: CASUALS

Buyback after death
pros/cons (depending on perspective); simpler, less strategic value
verdict: neutral, no signifigance on its own/ i cant measure without knowing the games pace

This post has been edited by randomtask on Wed - Apr 28 2010 - 22:17:47

i don't really feel like arguing your points cause it's clear your mind is made up but i do have a couple to say

there's plenty of movement, probably moreso in dota

the brush is incredible and great for many characters

each character can be built at minimum 3 different ways depending what your team needs/your favored playstyle, so yeah, being able to see what route they went is kind of important.

recall can be very strategic in pushing/defending,

but again, you enjoy your elitism, i'll play this enjoyable casual game teehee

games are much faster, i guess that's casual too

and addressing this point, i don't really feel cheated at all

they cycle the free champions every week and it's not hard to play enough games to get the points to purchase any of them

i like the model

i think 7DS actually bought the collector's pack for like $10, and at that price for everything its still not a bad deal

will continue enjoying the game another

in this thread tanner doesnt understand the fact that this thread isnt directed toward him in any way, and for some reason feels the need to defend himself and refute everything thats posted

no i understand completely that it's not directed at me in any way

i just feel like it deserves fair representation, and so i'm providing bits and pieces of the other side

Just download it and play it for like 2 rounds god damn it's free.

might do this with joe this weekend if i have time

but only if i can be on the opposite team of joe to show him his place

something similar to having 200 zerglings burrowed outside his base while hes trying to figure out what a volcano is for

just kidding bro!

i did not enjoy that game

LOL

hahaha

Get Gary Pie to play with you too, I talked him into playing kinda.

Downloaded, installed.

add me
TheImmortalVirus

downloading and installing

joefc

account name; balugamesh

games gay, shut it down

tanner uses hacks and chins cant quardnate

What the fuck is this?

the battle is about to begin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu5pC4sLiHA

i think about this every time i see that frost archers name

Mac*

Joe tries to see how quickly he can retreat every game.

when melee is higher level you get kamakazee, before that you play like a bitch

basically sums it up

heroes changed today at 5pm, i was in a character select screen at that exact time, it wouldnt let me choose any hero because "you dont own this hero at the moment", so it randomed me some piece of shit

gonna buy that little gunner bitch after i try out these new ones
i liked her

tristana is ofc

still top doggin it as teemo

lost many times today, then bamboozlesmashed a 3v3 with the 4k life demon

hes probably really unbalanced for 3v3s

if you dont keep him harassed/ let him grow huge he's super imba

but that's their fault for not keeping you locked down

ie letting you feast and grow huge

I was also stomping face with Mundo in that game.

John & I won 2v3, not sure what Joe was doing that game