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#712484 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 12:53:02
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no tank this game
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#712486 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 13:08:36
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Quote (Du$tin @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 12:50:15)
3v3s a lot of the time start out as 3v3 fight


That shit is dumb and should be avoided.
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#712488 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 13:09:36
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game 2, completely crashes 15 in
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#712494 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 13:31:12
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Quote (Du$tin @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 14:09:36)
game 2, completely crashes 15 in


ended up winning best game on fate so far, 10-4-6

and had to lane janna/tf against rammos/janna

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#712548 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 14:53:55
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Big 2mb update, I hope this fixes all of the interface problems and balance the Champions.

:euh:

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#712551 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 14:59:13
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First two game attempts of the day someone has left during selection.
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#712556 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 15:09:08
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Do not run WoW and try to do 5's
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#712559 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 15:20:04
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had to solo against a ashe/karthus who knew how to play

still came thru with a 4/7/21, nobody else on the team had more then 10 asst
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#712570 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 15:28:51
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donno what the hype is around karthus, he barely seems to be a problem, sure the ultimate can be irritating but thats all hes good for
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#712585 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 15:59:03
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 16:28:51)
donno what the hype is around karthus, he barely seems to be a problem, sure the ultimate can be irritating but thats all hes good for


he's basically a tankier zeus, hes got a highly spammable first skill that is hard to hit and his ult is just like zeus's

think he also has a slow and some sort of aoe dmg around him
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#712586 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 15:59:22
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Quote (MoS. @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 16:09:08)
Do not run WoW


fixed
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#712587 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 15:59:38
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Quote (Du$tin @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 16:59:22)
Quote (MoS. @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 16:09:08)
Do not run WoW


fixed


i was going to do that, but was too lazy
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#712589 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 16:02:42
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donno what the hype is around karthus, he barely seems to be a problem, sure the ultimate can be irritating but thats all hes good for


he's basically a tankier zeus, hes got a highly spammable first skill that is hard to hit and his ult is just like zeus's

think he also has a slow and some sort of aoe dmg around him


the aoe will only kill people if they are retarded and dont kill you immediately, or you are fed anyway in which case it doesnt matter

if you are good enough to hit shit in large fights with the first skill, you are too good to be playing karthus and should be playing a carry anyway

the magic resistance wall shit is gimmick, nobody walks through that shit

ultimate is same story as the aoe, if you are farmed in levels it will hurt, otherwise its slightly annoying

he stays alive to cast freely for 8 seconds after he dies, which i guess is cool in large fights
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#712591 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 16:03:37
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i pretty much dont know of a situation where i would rather have karthus instead of fiddlesticks
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#712678 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:00:10
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joe ragequit again
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#712679 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:00:31
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ok, back, 6 hour phone call that started in the middle of that game
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#712686 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:13:01
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i enjoy a teammate who says nothing the whole game, thinks that communication is a weakness because that seemingly means you are "playing for us", someone who when they do talk during game the comment is most assuredly condescending in nature and one generally with the undertone of "you are seriously a fucking moron"

i could continue but im pretty sure you get the point. you do nothing to help the team at all, you are a solo player in a team game. and we are your friends.
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#712689 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:22:53
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:13:01)
i enjoy a teammate who says nothing the whole game, thinks that communication is a weakness because that seemingly means you are "playing for us", someone who when they do talk during game the comment is most assuredly condescending in nature and one generally with the undertone of "you are seriously a fucking moron"

i could continue but im pretty sure you get the point.  you do nothing to help the team at all, you are a solo player in a team game.  and we are your friends.


I just tell him to shut the fuck up when he talks.
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#712690 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:23:25
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Quote (MoS. @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:22:53)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:13:01)
i enjoy a teammate who says nothing the whole game, thinks that communication is a weakness because that seemingly means you are "playing for us", someone who when they do talk during game the comment is most assuredly condescending in nature and one generally with the undertone of "you are seriously a fucking moron"

i could continue but im pretty sure you get the point.  you do nothing to help the team at all, you are a solo player in a team game.  and we are your friends.


I just tell him to shut the fuck up when he talks.


Because I haven't heard a single thing besides, "Are you even watching the map?", or "What are you doing?", [etc].

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#712693 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:26:05
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Quote (MoS. @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:23:25)
Quote (MoS. @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:22:53)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:13:01)
i enjoy a teammate who says nothing the whole game, thinks that communication is a weakness because that seemingly means you are "playing for us", someone who when they do talk during game the comment is most assuredly condescending in nature and one generally with the undertone of "you are seriously a fucking moron"

i could continue but im pretty sure you get the point.  you do nothing to help the team at all, you are a solo player in a team game.  and we are your friends.


I just tell him to shut the fuck up when he talks.


Because I haven't heard a single thing besides, "Are you even watching the map?", or "What are you doing?", [etc].


We are just now realizing that John is better than us at video games and it pains him to have to play with us.

Oh, wait...
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#712694 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:26:16
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Quote (MoS. @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:26:05)
Quote (MoS. @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:23:25)
Quote (MoS. @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:22:53)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:13:01)
i enjoy a teammate who says nothing the whole game, thinks that communication is a weakness because that seemingly means you are "playing for us", someone who when they do talk during game the comment is most assuredly condescending in nature and one generally with the undertone of "you are seriously a fucking moron"

i could continue but im pretty sure you get the point.  you do nothing to help the team at all, you are a solo player in a team game.  and we are your friends.


I just tell him to shut the fuck up when he talks.


Because I haven't heard a single thing besides, "Are you even watching the map?", or "What are you doing?", [etc].


We are just now realizing that John is better than us at video games and it pains him to have to play with us.

Oh, wait...


World of Warcraft?
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#712698 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:35:54
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i play with you for a reason

if you want to talk, ill talk back

ill stop initiating the talk since you always get mad
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#712699 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:37:31
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 19:35:54)
i play with you for a reason

if you want to talk, ill talk back

ill stop initiating the talk since you always get mad


thats a nick response if ive ever heard one
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#712702 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:40:25
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i will tolerate you all learning and i will play my solo lane
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#712703 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:41:11
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:37:31)
Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 19:35:54)
i play with you for a reason

if you want to talk, ill talk back

ill stop initiating the talk since you always get mad


thats a nick response if ive ever heard one


everything constructive i tell people, they dont listen

something like

"should i get the electric surge ball or overload"

response : "overload"

5 minutes later joe is shooting electric surge balls at shit and wondering why he is 1/9 with ryze
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#712704 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:41:29
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then blaming me for not quardnating
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#712705 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:43:06
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on that note, gz under 20 minute victory

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#712707 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:43:50
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i really like how quick/fast-paced katarina is, between skills having no cost and short cooldowns, cooldowns being refreshed after kills, and the mobility of her blinks
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#712708 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:44:09
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:43:50)
i really like how quick/fast-paced katarina is, between skills having no cost and short cooldowns, cooldowns being refreshed after kills, and the mobility of her blinks


especially on the 3v3 map where i can be anywhere/everywhere within a matter of seconds
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#712709 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:48:29
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the fact that i have been playing this style of game since it was invented, and can keep tabs on where and what every champion in the game is doing simultaneously proal doesnt help
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#712720 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:53:53
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 19:40:25)
i will tolerate you all learning and i will play my solo lane


you dont get it, so ill at least try to explain

we learn nothing being in the same situation all the time (aka laned together) while you solo. and there is no motivation for me to ever leave my lane, i mean why would i want to come help gank when you have shown no effort at all at being a team. if you do we have no idea because you dont communicate. last game you came top once, and all you did was kill our creep wave. how do we learn shit when we lane up top and no one ever calls a thing?

now this may be an advanced concept (thats my talking down to you, im sorry but its needed). there can sometimes be multiple rights. and in a game like this a "right" can be due to the team all doing the same thing. but with you a "right" is only done when we do what you think is what we should do.

im going to stop now because i feel like this has all been said before and its ogdc
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#712721 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:54:25
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HEY, YOU FUCKING IDIOT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, WHY AREN'T YOU DOING SOMETHING ELSE, [ETC]
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#712723 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:55:32
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:53:53)
Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 19:40:25)
i will tolerate you all learning and i will play my solo lane


you dont get it, so ill at least try to explain

we learn nothing being in the same situation all the time (aka laned together) while you solo. and there is no motivation for me to ever leave my lane, i mean why would i want to come help gank when you have shown no effort at all at being a team. if you do we have no idea because you dont communicate. last game you came top once, and all you did was kill our creep wave. how do we learn shit when we lane up top and no one ever calls a thing?

now this may be an advanced concept (thats my talking down to you, im sorry but its needed). there can sometimes be multiple rights. and in a game like this a "right" can be due to the team all doing the same thing. but with you a "right" is only done when we do what you think is what we should do.

im going to stop now because i feel like this has all been said before and its ogdc


You articulate things much better than I do, but this is pretty useful for explaining our feelings.
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#712725 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:56:24
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 19:43:06)
on that note, gz under 20 minute victory

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during this game the team strat was to let john solo lane, and anyone infringing on that was immediately told to leave

as for your previous comments, you dont explain anything. you give a black and white answer aka you dont need that till level 10. how does that at all explain? all in all dont ever become a teacher.

and following each char is not the issue, its knowing each char, which ofc no one really understands these chars and what they are supposed to be about
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#712726 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:57:53
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there havent been any good ganking opportunities more than once or twice per game we have played, and you would probably benefit the same by sticking in your lane and creeping

like i said, ill just play while you guys learn to recognize opportunities yourselves, because no matter how much i communicate, i cant relay all the info i am thinking of to you guys at all times
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#712728 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:59:22
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 19:43:06)
on that note, gz under 20 minute victory

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during this game the team strat was to let john solo lane, and anyone infringing on that was immediately told to leave

as for your previous comments, you dont explain anything. you give a black and white answer aka you dont need that till level 10. how does that at all explain? all in all dont ever become a teacher.

and following each char is not the issue, its knowing each char, which ofc no one really understands these chars and what they are supposed to be about


thats because i had 3 kills and was level 5 when one of them was still level 1, that game was a quick, flawless victory, i was on a huge roll and wanted to enjoy that game
point being, coming down into my lane accomplished nothing, because the other team wasnt posing any danger, and they werent putting themselves in a vulnerable position because they were afraid of myself alone, adding another person would have them camp the turret even longer
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#712729 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 21:59:32
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 19:57:53)
there havent been any good ganking opportunities more than once or twice per game we have played, and you would probably benefit the same by sticking in your lane and creeping

like i said, ill just play while you guys learn to recognize opportunities yourselves, because no matter how much i communicate, i cant relay all the info i am thinking of to you guys at all times


you never even ping the map. there is literally zero communication. our 3s game is to let you out level everyone and carry us. trust me, its not only not beneficial but unfun.
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#712730 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:00:15
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if you want me to teach you, ask some questions, and dont accept two word answers
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#712732 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:02:59
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im trying to do the best that i can for us to win the game, i would ask for help if the situation arose that i needed it

most of the games when im soloing, i will just avoid an enemy gathering until the split up and kill one, its easier and more predictable that way than bringing our whole team to fight their whole team whenever possible
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#712733 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:03:30
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its cool to go out and start shit looking for shit to gank, but not when that just wastes time and experience as opportunity cost
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#712735 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:07:40
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also, the heroes we have been playing are better for solo encounters

ryze, tristana, katarina, all mobile characters that have tools to wreck 1 other champion, but will get destroyed before you can do anything if 3 people bear down on you at once
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#712739 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:09:39
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 20:07:40)
also, the heroes we have been playing are better for solo encounters

ryze, tristana, katarina, all mobile characters that have tools to wreck 1 other champion, but will get destroyed before you can do anything if 3 people bear down on you at once


then we should construct a 3s team based on chars
ive been wanting to play poppy or garen to compare then to tyran or w/e. im cool with being a tank, though in 3s it seems like games are faster and tanks are harder to really get prepared.
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#712743 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:16:08
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 20:07:40)
also, the heroes we have been playing are better for solo encounters

ryze, tristana, katarina, all mobile characters that have tools to wreck 1 other champion, but will get destroyed before you can do anything if 3 people bear down on you at once


then we should construct a 3s team based on chars
ive been wanting to play poppy or garen to compare then to tyran or w/e. im cool with being a tank, though in 3s it seems like games are faster and tanks are harder to really get prepared.


the appeal for playing a tank is lost in 3v3 because
1. the ability to stay in the lane and outlast your opponent (doesnt matter in 3v3 because you can bank and get back so quick)
2. the distraction factor in a 3v3 fight (2 not counting you) is less than 5v5 chaos
3. little differences that add up
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#712744 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:16:26
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although there is a difference between tank and melee character
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#712747 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:22:54
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lets pick a valid 3s team then
i dont want to spend time in practice games learning other chars, but starting from scratch makes it tough to even know, and a 30 min game to sorta understand a char but to still be working out the gear. maybe i should just take recommended gear and stop trying to nerdperfect shit.
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#712748 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:24:04
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i just pick something thats the right category usually
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#712749 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:24:39
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the things that add up charges based on time/kills are best suited for 5v5s too
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#712750 | Thu - May 13 2010 - 22:24:51
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 23:16:08)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 23:09:39)
Quote (randomtask @ Thu - May 13 2010 - 20:07:40)
also, the heroes we have been playing are better for solo encounters

ryze, tristana, katarina, all mobile characters that have tools to wreck 1 other champion, but will get destroyed before you can do anything if 3 people bear down on you at once


then we should construct a 3s team based on chars
ive been wanting to play poppy or garen to compare then to tyran or w/e. im cool with being a tank, though in 3s it seems like games are faster and tanks are harder to really get prepared.


the appeal for playing a tank is lost in 3v3 because
1. the ability to stay in the lane and outlast your opponent (doesnt matter in 3v3 because you can bank and get back so quick)
2. the distraction factor in a 3v3 fight (2 not counting you) is less than 5v5 chaos
3. little differences that add up


wrong
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