now that bellichick cant cheat. even tho brady is back

premature

no discussion of win/loss. just how they are no where near as dominant as they were a season before last.

ofc

losing like 6 def starters prolly makes a difference

because 1 game tells you everything about a team and there is not chance of improvement/regression

or im just still astonished belichick is allowed to be involved with the nfl

get over it already, your a fan of one of the cheapest teams in the nfl

you gotta be cheap when you are publically owned. and we still have more superbowls than the bungles

edit: realised bungles never won one

This post has been edited by blackjack21 on Mon - Sep 14 2009 - 21:36:23

I am not a bengals fan until Mike Brown is dead, get your facts straight.

Tom Brady @ QB = always a chance to win

call me

tom brady is good, i agree

I think their Secondary is way better than it has been since Samuel left.
Their LBs are not better, but all have potential. I hope Mayo's injury is nothing serious.
ofc their DL is p nice too, they didn't look great against the no huddle ton8.

I'm worried about their ability to defend the HB, Jackson tore them up. I have a feeling Leon Washington will give them a lot of trouble next week, too.

im finding the team harder to like without seymour or tedy

speaking of which just sacked rivers

Seymour is gonna have a big year, dudes a force. They had to get younger, though. Mayo is the master, and I really like Darius Butler,

nobody gets pissed on here anymore with trolls. looks like im back to doing it on facebook

Jerrod is nice

trolling is fucking retarded

He just trolls to try to impress Spencer which went out of style in 07

you are the whiniest bitch sports fan i have ever met

you make spencer seem logical

i think i broke my hand and gave myself a concussion after that game

whatever

honestly i wanted to make this thread, but i knew they were going to win

You act like no other sports team has ever done it.

Seriously you need to open your fucking eyes.

They won superbowls because of good team chemistry and clutch performances. Not because they had a couple of questionable spy gate issues.

now i know ur an idiot.

belichick was caught cheating, and fined 500 grand. do you understand how blatently of a cheater you have to be for them to be able to slap a fine on you for that? that means they were 100% positive he was cheating. to get that certainty, over about 5 games or so had to study and watch the videotaping guy behind the opposition's bench and visibly see that man relay, by radio, to belichick during the game. Now if you think other teams have cheated in such a way, or even cheated in remotely close of a way to know the playcalling as it is happening on the field, then you better open YOUR eyes fuckhead, because no other team has even been suspected of such an act.

if you still dont believe me, ill be an asshole and just say its not cheating if you dont get caught.

you really think brady is that much of a genius of reading opponent's defense? yes i believe he is an incredible offensive force and much of the reason patriots offense has been so good over the past years is due to his little brain, but i also think going 16-0 as well as winning 2 superbowls has something to do with the belichick incident. however, nobody knows how long it had been going on or to what extent they knew exactly what the other team was doing, but it is the definite reason why the patriots have a little star on the same line as the 16-0 season and superbowls in the recordbooks.

edit: tl;dr : fuck you you ignorant fuck

This post has been edited by blackjack21 on Tue - Sep 15 2009 - 11:21:10

yes, its true. i work hard every day so that he will love me.



well first of all, ive never met you, which makes this creepy. but also, yes spencer is very logical always, which is why i love him and work very hard every day for him to return it

if you and spencer had children id nominate myself to cook them in a crock pot

cant wait for rant response. the anticipation is like christmas

They got caught, they paid for it. Other teams cheat and do not get caught. Please stop you're whining, and get off BB's nuts... we all know you just wish he was your head coach.

The only reason he was fined heavily was because of the reaction by many fans and the NFL knew they had to act hard or the public image would be hurt.

Many other teams have done similar spy gate attempts. Whether they would be exactly like the patriots or not, it wouldn't matter, teams have done it in the past. It is common sense that over 40 years of football a team just didn't start to think about cheating. They were the first to get caught.

It is the same way in business, people try to get an edge over their competitors. Whether or not sometimes it is cheating.

Although now that someone has been caught and the nfl has it on its radar, it most likely won't happen because now the teams know the consequence.

You are the one who is ignorant. You refused to believe that people can cheat because the NFL is supposed to have a higher standard? Of course there is a higher standard, but it doesn't change the fact that whenever there is competition, someone is going to try to cheat, whether that person or people get caught is the only question.

You seriously need to learn a little about human behavior.

it's Evan, he's always right.

name one team who has cheated.

also, you need to calm down a little. you are getting a little too riled up over such a stupid topic! its all just calm conversation buddy

see phil knows the rules

pack would win more games under him, thats true

not having a lazy eye helps

They were not caught. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out that over 40 years, only not one team attempted to cheat.

And by the way, you are the one who should calm down. You are typing cuss words and as of right now, someone is telling you that you are wrong. And that just can't happen for you. You are always right.

This post has been edited by sir_lance_bb on Tue - Sep 15 2009 - 12:55:26

This post has been edited by sir_lance_bb on Tue - Sep 15 2009 - 12:55:26

and you have no proof any team has ever cheated, so i do not see your argument

and thank you! i knew you would see my point and therefore know i was correct

what about the Cowboys in the 90s with their salary bullshit

or the Colts piping sound into their stadium

OHH NO, DONT ACCUSE THE COLTS OF PUMPING SOUND THROUGH THEIR SPEAKERS! THEY ARE A GOOD OL MIDWEST TEAM!

btw, ive been to a game there, they pump sound in

I remember reading about how they turned the heat way up in their dome one playoff against the Pats too

Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it's not happening.. You just ignant, Evan.

yesssssssssss

This isn't a matter of whether they have been caught. You bitch about the pats cheating and you it entirely because you hate their success and blame it on their cheating.

But however when I show you the logical idea the nfl football has been around for so long and that you would actually believe that they were the first ones to cheat, you completely dodge the question and kind of change your stance on the subject retorting back to you are always right or the it isn't cheating if you don't get caught.

You are mind-shallow if you really believe that no one has cheated over the last 40 or so years except for the patriots.

i laugh when lance tries to talk sports

pats suck, they got one two lucky breaks yesterday

has not been proved. nobody had cheated as far as i or you or anyone knows. patriots randomly just "happen" to get good in the 2000s. you cant deny the facts.

btw sound pumping or heating a stadium affects both teams and really, how much can it hurt a team. now knowing when a blitz is coming every single time because you are watching their sideline calls IS. you ppl are really really stupid

just a quick note:

1) all you patriots fans are biased, defend your squad, and are slightly homo-attracted to tom brady's butt chin and randy moss' sexy tight tush.
2) your only defense is that OTHER TEAMS DO IT TOO OMG FORGIVE US! we won legitamately! but really this is fueled only by bias and is unintelligent
3) i have no reason to hate the patriots other than their cheating and dislike for butt chins. i should actually enjoy the org. because the pack rolled over them in 96-97 season
4) your feeble attempts to make me look stupid, unintelligent, or biased are just that. feeble attempts.

Considering I am a raiders fan and hate the living guts of the patriots considering the tuck rule and that whole controversy about that game. I am not biased.

I just think it is logical to think that other teams could of cheated in the past 40 years regardless if they have been caught or not.

well then what the fuck are you arguing about. hatred for me? this thread was meant to be a "fuck the pats" thread to anger phil

Who cares really. I hate the pats because of that game really, I don't lose any respect for them about the spy gate incident because I believe they aren't the only ones guilty.

But yeah fuck the patriots as a fan of my team.