that trade is fucking bullshit

you should cancel it yourself, fuck you

Bruins

whats the trade?

3 people on the IR for ovechkin

At the time I offered the trade, Giguere was stated to be back thursday (today) trade wont go through til Saturday so he'll be playing by the time it goes through.
Lucic wasn't DTD and has less assists but 1 more goal than ovechkin.
And Subban has decent points in the games he's played with a high amount of hits and blocked shots.

It's really not a bad trade for some one who wants to get back into it.
Main thing is a starting goalie for some one who only has 2.

Win-win for both people

hes dropping better players than you are trading him, fuck you

fuck you for even trying to justify it

it would be fair if you threw in semin also, and he didnt drop enstrom and wisniewski

lucic is injured
subban is a rookie, and isnt even playing that well
and gigeure is a backup on the worst team in the league

how the fuck do you justify this trade

Wasn't aware of who he was dropping. Will recommend zajac and connolly. Not sure what he was thinking.
I dont see anything wrong with the trade considering it's 3 for 1 and I'm losing a starting goalie so I'll only have 2 now. But agreed he's dropping the wrong players.
and

no, you need to throw in someone good to make it an ok trade, not the worst 3 players on your team for the best player in the league

LOL Ovechkin is under-performing sitting at 10th in the league in points, 21 points behind #1.

Giguere will be the starting goalie for Toronto when he's healthy within the next week. He's also 1 game under .500 and there's 4 teams worse than Toronto right now. Could also argue they'll do better when their starting goalie plays.

Subban is a rookie with a lot of hits, blocks and PIMS. Yes, it's shocking that fantasy hockey is based off more than just points which ovechkin usually gets a lot of.

A starting goalie and decent Left winger with a back up defender for a starting left wing seems like a good deal to me.

ovechkin is rated #1 because he gets points in every single category, so when you trade 800 people for 1 person, you have to drop 799 people that are good in a few categories to take on some other shitty players.

if you really think this is a fair trade then you have to allow me to dump my best 5 players to my friends team for his worst 5

if not, fuck you

plus, bakers beast needs offense way more than anything else, and giving him a shitty fucking goalie is only going to make his GAA and SV% down
losing ovechkin for fucking milan lucic makes his offensive production go way the fuck down
he already is in good shape in PIM and the other shit, so basing an entire fucking bullshit trade on blocks earns you 3 more fuck yous

In a 1 to 1 trade I'd agree, but it's not a 1 to 1 trade, it's a 3 for 1, obviously my players aren't going to be as good as ovechkin. I believe the value of all 3 are pretty close to the value of ovechkin. especially how he's performed this year. Oh, and the main category he needs points and games played in is goalie, which ovechkin can't help with.

They're also not my 3 worst players. Lucic has been my utility player all season and Giguere has played every game he was able to.

If I was trading my 3 worst it would arguably be Stoll, Johnson, and Anders Lindback.

Pos Played Remaining Projected Max
G 58 106 136 (-28) 164

yeah, he needs offense and not goalies.

hes dropping more offense than he is getting (which he needs more help in than 2 goalie categories) and gaining a goalie which wont help him in the 2 categories he needs

why dont you look at the stats instead of trying to push an unfair trade because youre the commish

everyone is always minus in goalies, his stats for goalies are better lined up than his offense, regardless of how many people he has

he looks like hes pretty far in the minus for left wing too, so why not trade away the best left wing there is
solid

i see what youre doing, you have #1 waiver priority. not only do you get ovechkin, but you also get enstrom (ranked 47) for 3 cheap scrubs

ULTRA FUCK YOU

Adding more goalies increases chance of shut outs and chances at wins. Also Giguere is not a bad goalie, may be on a bad team but not a bad goalie and could help bring up the other category's as well.
The only goalie category he's doing decent in is wins. All of the other ones he's getting 5 points or lower.
And ovechkin really isn't that much offense lost considering washinton in general isn't playing good this season.

Lucic 16 goals, 12 assists, +/- 11, 58 PIM, 104 Hits, 12 Blocks.
Ovechkin 15 goals, 30 assists, +/- 9, 31 PIM, 136 Hits, 11 Blocks

Oh hey, that's only one of the 3 guys I'm giving him too.

alright im proposing my trade right now
since obviously youre either retarded or lost your fucking mind

I forgot my account info and haven't logged in since draft day.

Fuck I think I had Frolov, that just fucks my whole team.

LOL I didn't even noticed the waiver thing, and like I had already stated, He should change who he drops and I'll even tell him to.

Also bringing up the "abusing the commissioner" thing is bull shit on your part cause everyone else didn't want to do set it up including me but if I didn't do it no one would have.

And replacing a Left wing with a left wing does not hurt or help his games played. And Goalies has significant less games played than Left wing so your point is pretty bad.

No point arguing with your "I'm always right attidude" so hopefully your buttstopshurting

when you dump shitty players on someone, its baggage, not "helping someone"

hes taking people ranked 418 and 181 and 57
losing one ranked 7th (oh ovechkin is so fucking bad, hes 21 points back of the leader) 7th. 7. SEVEN.
and dropping people ranked: 47 (also better than anyone you are trading him), 162, and 365

if he wants fucking goalkeeping he should pick up theodore or schneider, both see playing time and are ranked 4 times better than giguere (a player owned by 20% of leagues who you are hallmark advertising like hes jesus christ)

you were arguing with numbers, now look at the fucking numbers

4 4 7 4 7 4 2
goals assists +/- PIM PPP Hits blocks

9 5 5.5 2.5
W GAA SV% SHO


I would say he needs ovechkin a lot more than he needs giguere, especially when ovechkin gets going
for only having 2 goalies, hes getting a shit ton of wins, dont you think
you want him to take on a goalie who doesnt get wins, will tank your GAA/SV%, all for shutouts??

and dont say he needs shutouts. planning on getting a shut out is like planning on winning the lottery

Ovechkin
15 30 9 31 15 136 11
goals assists +/- PIM PPP Hits Blocks

Lucic (the better part of your trade)
16 12 11 58 6 104 12

leaves him with
+1 -18 +2 +27 -9 -32 +1

add in Subban
3 11 -1 55 6 69 47

+4 -7 +1 +82 -3 +37 +48

now what hes dropping (ill even optimize the trade for you to show you its bad)

Connolly
6 11 -11 12 8 13 23

-2 -18 +12 +70 -11 +24 +25

Bergfors
9 14 0 4 8 2 5

-11 -32 +12 +66 -19 +22 +20

Wisniewski
5 23 -17 22 16 68 48

-16 -55 +29 +44 -35 -46 -28
goals assists +/- PIM Hits Blocks
Ranks (+ signifies you are helping him, - hurting)
4 4 7 4 7 4 2
- - + + - - -





theres your math, how the fuck are you helping him??

bakers goalies totals
36 2.70 .911 2

gigeure
8 2.80 .894 0

yeah, thats a real help

The only league that trades a superstar for 3 non superstar is the nba, and that's because they are dumping contracts. Thereby no way to justify trading one of the 2 premier players for anything less.

Let's compare.
NFL:
Drew Brees had a "down" year and was only 7th by ESPN rankings. Would trading him for a rookie Te, a defensive team I won't use, and a Fg kicker because my other one sucks seem fair?

If you answer yes your name is pinball trying defend a trade that is based on the assumption that Ovechkin is having a down year by being a top 10 player.

someones mad

alright, fuck you pinball

done with this league

itt: gull is super made

i don't play with cheaters

i am mostly irritated because i was winning this league playing completely fair and square, and paying attention to who is doing well. its bullshit that now the league is fucked and i cant even enjoy coming in top with a good (lucky but good) draft as well as some intuition.

whatever, ill still beat your team anyway

funny that everyone i know voted against the ovechkin trade
and no one i know voted against my trade

abuse on master abuse baby

ohhhh what do you know, master abuse cheat baby picks up the number 47 ranked overall defenseman that was dropped by the team he got ovechkin from.

wow, didnt see that one coming!