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Sandusky being a guilty shitbag --> Death penalty and prison overcrowding

dan, do you think if i wanted to let my kid be secually abused i should send him to penn state?

I doubt they would get accepted if they inherited your spelling skills.

This post has been edited by smoked on Sat - Jun 23 2012 - 10:25:56

The result of the case was made. -----> People make statements that they think the government should have the right to end his life.

Someone says they don't. -------> Somehow jewscott thinks this has something to do with medicine and playing god

lol secually

jerry sandusky added to suicide watch list

yep, if we stop the death penalty we better cancel medicine

i like how the death penalty more expensive than life in prison because of lawyers
ultimate backwards bullshit

guilty, life in prison? thats cool
guilty, death penalty? lets take 10 more years to closer examine our JUDICIAL SYSTEM

crime is expensive

foul living like sandusky and paterno
been husky motherfuckers couldnt touch me

kid fucking should require a whole 5 minutes of deliberation.

"oh you did it? alright guess we gotta off you.."

emails surfacing that joepa indeed helped the coverup. ill withhold judgement until they come out but its fairly ofc that he had to have helped.

Very very sad if true.

who started a charity organization for underprivileged kids and fucked all of them. Literally. In the behind.

So far its

"talked to joe"

which means, they might of mentioned something to him...ill have to wait and see I mean unless it says flat out joe said not to do something....joepa too old to use email ffs

oh, so you alumns still think joepa didn't have anything to do?

aside from call it his lifes biggest regret and die about it

yeah, im sure he passed along some information and thought that was just A okay

guy was a douche, end of story

based on joepas stature there is no way he wasnt part of the decision to cover up sandusky. its the same reason i felt joepa being fired was the right thing to do.
i agree with nick that he basically died because of his guilt.

i also feel like hating ginger and not putting responsibility on joepa is being selective.

why don't we just kill people like old times

I am also of the belief that had he continued to coach he would have lived another 10 years. it was sort of a lost puppy moment when i heard he died only a little bit after being fired. in his mind he died the day he was fired, his body just took a little while to figure it out

thats what happens when an old man knows his lifes work is obsolete because of one single fuckup. you know he said "this will be the death of me".

too soon?

and the cover-up is exposed

Been reading it, to see what the actual thing is since all ive seen so far is the same shit thats been rumored and shit for months

these are not rumors, ive been watching the press conference for the last 20 minutes. in short, everyone knew everything and the 4 people who controlled the situation chose to cover it up, mislead investigators and hope no one noticed all in an effort to not have bad PR

sorry man, your hero help a child molester continue his deeds

I can understand seeing that, and I cant deny he shoulda done more especially in regards to limiting sanduskys access to shit. (Freeh report pg 51 last paragraph pretty much says what was thought of Joepa having final say in limiting access and didnt. Also suggests that nobody knows how much was told to joepa about the investigation of sandusky which didnt go anywhere at the conclusion)



WTF @ a place who deals with kids saying any kind of shit like that could be a non-incident.

University police met and talked with sandusky and didnt do anything or even put it in the incident log...wat

*edit* Still reading but dont take this as a I think joepa is blamefree post, im just trying to read and summarize the shit. I dont think joepa is blame free, but also dont think that all the fault lies with him either.

*edit2*
Although Freeh maintained his "great deal of respect" for Paterno and his legacy, he also stressed that Paterno could have stopped the abuse, and that in contrast to what his son Scott told New York Times, had been following the Sandusky case to some extent since 1998.

That sounds about right, minus the scott nytimes part.

This post has been edited by smoked on Thu - Jul 12 2012 - 13:06:53

the fault ofc does not lie with any one person but with all 4 people equally. because they put the institution over people. what joepa really failed at is realizing that his name is the only name that counts at penn st, i dont know the names of the other 3. it was his legacy that will forever take the biggest hit and he should have made sure to stop it.

imo

listening to jay paternos try to act like joepa has no blame because he "told those that he was supposed to" is pathetic

they are trying to defend a dead man

kind of sad

Actually stopping it would have only added to what (at the time) was a great legacy. Which is funny, because any normal human would have stopped it, but the media would have ate it up like he's the protector of the innocent.

God damnit, either way this is a big bag of shit that someone set on fire and left on our porch.

never gonna happen

lol joe

and that is exactly why i honestly believe everyone that is (or has been) associate with that university supports child molestation

So....

Punish the current coaches and players for what a former coach (now in prison) did back in 1999?



Yes, fuck over the kids who are at the university now, because those little shits should have known not to go there when they were 5-8 years old.

thats like saying you cant punish a bank because the "guilty" party is no longer there. the entire point of an institution or corporation is to void the responsibility from any single party thus perpetuating the problem which is derived from removing responsibility. so basically as long as you change ceo/president whenever something bad happens there is no culpability? its time to hold guilty parties accountable and let those innocent bystanders be mad at the guilty and not the regulators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji7UQhr3z3M&sns=em

Seriously? You think that by removing the football team or sports from PSU, will remove what happened in the past?

And by not thinking that PSU should lose its football program, that I support child molestation?

lol yep its just that 1 coach's fault dont hold the whole power structure of an institution that repeatedly covered for him & allowed it to continue essentially unchecked for years

That's not the same thing at all. It's not even close. One is corporate America, the other an educational institution. On one side you're dealing with employees, who will be no more loyal to a job than the next step up in the corporate ladder, and an athletic department and it's players, who mind you, aren't paid athletes, who are actually loyal to the university they go to (at least in most cases).

Also, punishing a bank is not equal to punishing players, unless you are telling the bank they have to reduce employees. Cutting scholarships is not the same as taking a job. Displaced employees who lose a job at no fault of their own can at least get unemployment, retraining, go on the job hunt.

Displaced students, who already don't have any financial means, and under the current NCAA regime (strict as hell towards players who would even want to transfer), say GN8 to a future that doesn't involve being night shift manager at the CITGO.

i disagree, and so did penn state when they were behaving like a corporation who has no responsibility to average people

The kids that are at the university (which is 100% directly responsible for this behavior) are unfortunate casualties of this situation. I feel bad that they have to have their names tied to this mess, however, they can deal with it (hopefully without being raped).



The current NCAA director hasn't ruled it out as an option. There is zero precedent for this type of institutional failure. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

Obviously for the boys who were raped, it will never remove what has happened in their past. For everyone else, it will also not remove what has happened in the past. But hopefully it will help them recover, learn to better protect children, and move on.

I don't know Dan, as a law enforcement officer, or someone who wants to be in public service, I'd have to hold your morals to a higher standard. I don't see how you can possibly condone this type of behavior. Lesser schools have received the death penalty without having little boys assholes teared apart.



While I normally think you are an unknowing twat of a kid (just kidding, you've always been incredibly mature), you obviously have grown up and can determine that this entire situation from top-to-bottom is awful.



I can't even begin to describe my hatred for how fucking stupid you are Eric(k) [Which is it?]. You're trying to argue so many terrible points it's beyond comprehension of someone that is a husband, a father, an employee, and a citizen of the USA. You have had to have made the worst analogy of this story that I have heard so far: BANKS to ENTIRE UNIVERSITY FAILURE REGARDING CHILD RAPE OF 20 YEARS.

An educational institution SHOULD BE one of the safest places in the world you could hope to send your child to. It should not be a place that has condoned repeated child molestation for two decades. It doesn't matter if the molester was one individual or not, the entire institution is involved, due in part to the highest levels of authority fucking this entire situation up beyond belief. Comparing corporate policy to this is a fucking joke, did you even read what you wrote?

The fact that you said that these athletes aren't paid is fucking retarded. They are entitled to a free education (which PSU is remarkably at the highest percentage of student athletes that actually get an education). We won't go into "improper benefits" that they regularly receive at almost every institution, that's for another thread, however, you are a fucking idiot on this argument, forever.

You're trying to argue that being a night shift manager at a gas station is bad thing. Guess what dipshit, having a job today is a positive benefit to being an American, many people don't even have that. You're level of (not) understanding ANYTHING is absolutely atrocious for an adult.

lol

were the 2

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