Here's my thoughts. I think performance enhancing drugs are the future. And that we are silly to think that it isn't. As the future comes and the sports medicine field and just medicine in general progresses. More and more PEDs will be coming out. Even some with hardly any harmful side effects.
Athletes already have diets heavy in protein and the like. They have training regimens that push their body to the max. So are we doing to just deny medical advancement for the future? 20 years down the road, we just going to be like you can't have this medication that increases muscle or recovery growth that is pretty safe to take. We just going to say you can't do anything unless this organization considers it natural?
I think it's time for us to wake up and get over ourselves. PEDs are a apart of the future. And it means that not only are athletes going to be stronger and faster. They will recover faster. The game will become more and more competitive. Like Adderall is detected now because we don't want people to have a focus advantage. And Marijuana is still considered for detection.
And for all the mentality that they can't because it's unfair that the people who played back in the day didn't live in our time with this potential and it's unfair for players to do it now. We didn't exactly know that much about training as we do now. The surgeries and sports medicine technology we have now that they didn't. So they shouldn't be doing those things by that logic.
I'm sorry, I just think you need to get over yourself if you really believe PEDs are really that much a threat to the game.

i think lance armstrong is everything that is wrong in athletes, from arrogance to entitlement.  with that said we may as well just accept that in 50 years we will be genetically enhanced beings and that the sanctity of sports is over.

i think lance armstrong is everything that is wrong in athletes, from arrogance to entitlement.  with that said we may as well just accept that in 50 years we will be genetically enhanced beings and that the sanctity of sports is over.

At least lance knew enough to wait till statute of limitations passed

On the topic of Armstrong



lol'd

same

maybe we would be better off is cancer had killed him

Nah, live and let live man.

doesn't the charity work he did with livestrong count for anything?

10%

does the fact that he still won the tour 7 times when all of his other competitors were using peds make him at all impressive?

ruining lives is proal too strong, but he certainly ruined careers in an effort to try to save his name.

dont really care about careers ruined when the careers we are talking about are athletes. get a real job that benefits society

so an athlete who ruins other athletes careers is okay, because they are both athletes.
okay

Name one person whose life was ruined.  Don't you dare name that other biking fag.

He has done so much for cancer (inspiring victims,  raising money for research, etc.), what have you done besides be a hyper critical weasel that hates life?

solid rebuttal. ad hominem.
but you are right, hes an inspiration. a survivor! our savior lance!

Banned substance = banned substance.
As far as ped use goes, I really don't care. If its harmful it should be banned. If not then be my guest. I don't know about this sanctity of the game nonsense. As has been written about 100s of times, players should be evaluated within the framework of their era.

The funny thing with lance is that at least he made it so they only had to worry about one guy since he won every fucking race. The way they made it sound, you weren't gonna win against someone who was doping. So every winner in that era would have had to be erased.

so you judge him as an athlete, and not as the person that he became because of his success?

I try not to judge most athletes by the people that they are unless it will become relevant to their play as an athlete.
The guys raised millions of dollars for cancer. And he also stirred up a lot of other shit. I really have no fucking clue.

and by cancer i mean the fight against cancer