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I lied, Comcast users are "Connecting" so +1
 
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comcast is always the first to blame
 
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Super glad I can't connect, wiping to trash sounds fun, might go spend the night at my m8's.
 
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logg on
instantly get invited to 25 man yogg
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yogg -1 gogo
 
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got 15 badges from 10m naxx today, was p good
 
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got like 20% from phase 3
called raid
 
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got like 20% from phase 3
called raid


how many keepers?
 
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-1 = wipe
p2 issues ofc
 
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fail all night
 
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fail all night


Extending raid next week for more of the same.
 
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Quote (boblong11 @ Thu - Aug 27 2009 - 23:57:15)
got like 20% from phase 3
called raid


20% from phase 3 = brain room @ 50%, or yogg @ 20% p3?
 
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-1 = wipe
p2 issues ofc


do you have 2nd crusher spawns per brain phase? or just not enough up top to clear corrupters?
 
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-1 = wipe
p2 issues ofc


do you have 2nd crusher spawns per brain phase? or just not enough up top to clear corrupters?


donno, just people dying. by the second brain room people were missing, and the ones that grab you always seem to spawn as people are getting in portals.
 
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-1 = wipe
p2 issues ofc


do you have 2nd crusher spawns per brain phase? or just not enough up top to clear corrupters?


donno, just people dying. by the second brain room people were missing, and the ones that grab you always seem to spawn as people are getting in portals.


right

its very critical in the yogg fight to break the illusion in brain room within x seconds so that the tentacle spawns up top stop, otherwise you will have a second crusher tentacle spawn up top
every crusher up top channels the entire raid to deal 20% less damage, including the brain room

when you break the illusion early, the raid up top will kill the single crusher and remove the damage debuff from everyone, they will have time to kill corrupters/constrictors/refill sanity/etc

if you are slow to break the illusion (due to deaths, being constricted, being debuffed by corrupters, taking wrong portals, etc), and a second crusher spawns, the raid will have a 40% damage debuff until you either break the illusion (stops channeling, stuns tentacles), or ranged kills the first crusher (still will be one up, raid will still be down 20% until you break)

pretty much once you get behind on yogg, youll never get caught up, but if you get very clean first brain phase, you will get ahead, and make it easier for the next phases to be clean (ranged up top will be available to kill constrictors that take melee, healers will be free to dispel/decurse/etc you so you arent slowed/diseased when you go back down)
 
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-1 = wipe
p2 issues ofc


do you have 2nd crusher spawns per brain phase? or just not enough up top to clear corrupters?


donno, just people dying. by the second brain room people were missing, and the ones that grab you always seem to spawn as people are getting in portals.


right

its very critical in the yogg fight to break the illusion in brain room within x seconds so that the tentacle spawns up top stop, otherwise you will have a second crusher tentacle spawn up top
every crusher up top channels the entire raid to deal 20% less damage, including the brain room

when you break the illusion early, the raid up top will kill the single crusher and remove the damage debuff from everyone, they will have time to kill corrupters/constrictors/refill sanity/etc

if you are slow to break the illusion (due to deaths, being constricted, being debuffed by corrupters, taking wrong portals, etc), and a second crusher spawns, the raid will have a 40% damage debuff until you either break the illusion (stops channeling, stuns tentacles), or ranged kills the first crusher (still will be one up, raid will still be down 20% until you break)

pretty much once you get behind on yogg, youll never get caught up, but if you get very clean first brain phase, you will get ahead, and make it easier for the next phases to be clean (ranged up top will be available to kill constrictors that take melee, healers will be free to dispel/decurse/etc you so you arent slowed/diseased when you go back down)


we were certainly not having a clean brain phase, and a couple new people dont help
 
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do you make sure everyone is positioned near where there portal will spawn for the first ones?
p sure our melee stays around where the ranged are until 5ish second prior to portals spawning (so that they can be broken from constrictors and dispelled), then runs to their spots so they can get down ASAP
 
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also; how many healers do you use?
 
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do you make sure everyone is positioned near where there portal will spawn for the first ones?
p sure our melee stays around where the ranged are until 5ish second prior to portals spawning (so that they can be broken from constrictors and dispelled), then runs to their spots so they can get down ASAP


yes
 
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also; how many healers do you use?


5 maybe 6 donno
 
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also; how many healers do you use?


5 maybe 6 donno


try less than that ever?
we use four, always have
 
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also; how many healers do you use?


5 maybe 6 donno


try less than that ever?
we use four, always have


maybe its 4
our issues are nearly never a strat, just performance
 
#601174 | Fri - Aug 28 2009 - 17:40:00
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ie i never pay attention to healers
 
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how can you tell what is happening (as a whole) if you dont pay attention to who is doing what?
 
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how can you tell what is happening (as a whole) if you dont pay attention to who is doing what?


i have faith in my healers, and if im getting low i pop enraged regen/crack rock
when i see people dying i know we are having issues that dont pertain to me/my performance
 
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how can you tell what is happening (as a whole) if you dont pay attention to who is doing what?


i have faith in my healers, and if im getting low i pop enraged regen/crack rock
when i see people dying i know we are having issues that dont pertain to me/my performance


so you just want to make sure you are doing everything you can be, and if the guild isnt doing their part, you just accept it and take it for what it is

i cant do that, i need to blame people in my mind
 
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how can you tell what is happening (as a whole) if you dont pay attention to who is doing what?


i have faith in my healers, and if im getting low i pop enraged regen/crack rock
when i see people dying i know we are having issues that dont pertain to me/my performance


so you just want to make sure you are doing everything you can be, and if the guild isnt doing their part, you just accept it and take it for what it is

i cant do that, i need to blame people in my mind


placing blame does nothing, improving does everything. i can tell if raid dmg is too high, cuz multiple people start dropping, if tank healers fail, if tanks dont hold aggro, i mean i have a good idea whats going wrong. just saying i dont know the healing encounters well. ive never been one so its still a bit foreign to me.
 
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and placing blame is not helpful. only fixing mistakes.

(in before you say you have to place blame to fix a problem)
 
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and placing blame is not helpful.  only fixing mistakes.

(in before you say you have to place blame to fix a problem)


in a guild like mine, if you dont pressure people to stop being shitty, they will continue to slide by and be happy in other peoples success carrying them

 
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and placing blame is not helpful.  only fixing mistakes.

(in before you say you have to place blame to fix a problem)


in a guild like mine, if you dont pressure people to stop being shitty, they will continue to slide by and be happy in other peoples success carrying them


SAME
 
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and placing blame is not helpful.  only fixing mistakes.

(in before you say you have to place blame to fix a problem)


in a guild like mine, if you dont pressure people to stop being shitty, they will continue to slide by and be happy in other peoples success carrying them


SAME


pressure people to stop being shitty = blame them for dieing/other shit
 
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my wow doesnt have the option to run on 1280x1024 resolution like ive used for the past year

gr8
 
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im not running at 1280x800, nty
 
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how can you tell what is happening (as a whole) if you dont pay attention to who is doing what?


i have faith in my healers, and if im getting low i pop enraged regen/crack rock
when i see people dying i know we are having issues that dont pertain to me/my performance


this

although i do watch others just cause my job requires minimal effort
 
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