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Obama Gives Money For Stem Cell Research, how you feel about this?
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#491394 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 12:38:49
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#491396 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 12:45:20
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the govt being lassiez-faire is what caused the collapse of the mortgage industry


no, it was the retarded banks handing out sub-prime loans like candy on halloween
which was brought on by bill clinton legislation


just because he allowed them to lend a higher percentage of their liquid assets does not mean he wanted them to start creating all those fancy ARMs that basically fucked people once houses stopped appreciating 20% every 3 years

george could have stopped that if he wanted to, but he choose not too. and dont blame the loans given to the poor. its the ARMs that fucked the lending industry, nothing more or less
giving banks more power to loan out more is retarded, and you know this. youre all high and mighty on the rich getting richer, where are you to frown on this.

plus what the fuck happened in 1928, i forgot. was that escalated by overloaning banks


i didnt say i agreed with it
but with the lending practices then allowing them an extra 10% (i think thats what it was) didnt seem too bad. but the minute houses started jumping up in price banks saw a way to start capitalize on the fact people could change houses every 3 years and ARMs looked gr8 for that
not to mention no one was holding banks accountable and people were either stupid and/or misinformed and signed their name to the dotted line
 
#491401 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 12:51:29
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ok so you agree with me, they shouldnt have been given that 10% to work with
 
#491404 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 12:53:38
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they would have been fine under their current lending practices
but they are not capable of restraint so some should have been added
 
#491405 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 12:54:50
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when you give banks that extra 10%, its like making that money out of nothing

its no surprise everything got falsely inflated
 
#491412 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 12:59:57
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they didnt give them more money, just allowed them to overextend themselves more
which should have not been used on loans that had a 99% chance to default if the market changed at all
 
#491414 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:01:24
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they didnt give them more money, just allowed them to overextend themselves more
which should have not been used on loans that had a 99% chance to default if the market changed at all
right, it theoretically doesnt give them more money

but it puts way more money out into the system that doesnt exist

10% is a lot of money

 
#491415 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:02:30
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?
 
#491416 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:07:53
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


NO TAXES
 
#491417 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:08:12
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


NO TAXES


Top Dog's hate taxes.
 
#491418 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:10:11
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


NO TAXES


Top Dog's hate taxes.


Okay, nobody really likes taxes.
 
#491419 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:10:18
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?
seeing as banks are the root of all evil and the root of almost every financial crisis in this country

id say mark them up 30% on what they can dish out, and heavily regulate them.

us conservatives, we like success

 
#491420 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:11:11
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regulation sounds like nationalism
 
#491421 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:12:08
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banks that got bailed out are subject to strict regulation, i like that idea, i just dont like that they got bailed out
 
#491445 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:32:50
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As an American, I think that the banks should have been regulated against much stronger.

As a liberal, I would like to see the policy makers, lobbyists, and profiteers from this crisis be publicly executed for treason against the United States of America to set an example of what will happen if you want to be greedy.

 
#491448 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:34:58
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Quote (MoS. @ Mar 10 2009 - 12:32:50)
As an American, I think that the banks should have been regulated against much stronger.

As a liberal, I would like to see the policy makers, lobbyists, and profiteers from this crisis be publicly executed for treason against the United States of America to set an example of what will happen if you want to be greedy.
the second part is true if we are talking about the bailout banks, at least for me

but ofc on the first
 
#491452 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:37:08
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stop lobbyists and you stop a huge portion of the corruption
worst part is its legal and encouraged
 
#491458 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:48:41
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mar 10 2009 - 12:37:08)
stop lobbyists and you stop a huge portion of the corruption
worst part is its legal and encouraged
reminds me of a certain community organizer

LOL

 
#491463 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:55:53
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Quote (Sgull @ Mar 10 2009 - 13:34:58)
Quote (MoS. @ Mar 10 2009 - 12:32:50)
As an American, I think that the banks should have been regulated against much stronger.

As a liberal, I would like to see the policy makers, lobbyists, and profiteers from this crisis be publicly executed for treason against the United States of America to set an example of what will happen if you want to be greedy.
the second part is true if we are talking about the bailout banks, at least for me

but ofc on the first


In this scenario, yes, in many others, it also holds true.
 
#491464 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 13:56:47
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Quote (MoS. @ Mar 10 2009 - 12:55:53)
Quote (Sgull @ Mar 10 2009 - 13:34:58)
Quote (MoS. @ Mar 10 2009 - 12:32:50)
As an American, I think that the banks should have been regulated against much stronger.

As a liberal, I would like to see the policy makers, lobbyists, and profiteers from this crisis be publicly executed for treason against the United States of America to set an example of what will happen if you want to be greedy.
the second part is true if we are talking about the bailout banks, at least for me

but ofc on the first


In this scenario, yes, in many others, it also holds true.
if its like an enron situation i think by being a human youre forced to agree

but if youre pooling all the people who are still successful in this economy i have to disagree

 
#491466 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 14:00:50
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Quote (MoS. @ Mar 10 2009 - 12:55:53)
Quote (Sgull @ Mar 10 2009 - 13:34:58)
Quote (MoS. @ Mar 10 2009 - 12:32:50)
As an American, I think that the banks should have been regulated against much stronger.

As a liberal, I would like to see the policy makers, lobbyists, and profiteers from this crisis be publicly executed for treason against the United States of America to set an example of what will happen if you want to be greedy.
the second part is true if we are talking about the bailout banks, at least for me

but ofc on the first


In this scenario, yes, in many others, it also holds true.
if its like an enron situation i think by being a human youre forced to agree

but if youre pooling all the people who are still successful in this economy i have to disagree


If they attained the wealth by legitimate means, that's fine, I am refering to the lobbyists, corporations, & politicians that are all in each other's pockets.
 
#491468 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 14:02:11
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ya fk them
 
#491469 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 14:02:40
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also fuck obama for giving money to acorn

that lobbyist group
 
#491484 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 14:13:08
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ya fk them


 
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also fuck obama for giving money to acorn

that lobbyist group


i think my cousin works for them :donno:
 
#491490 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 14:28:58
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Quote (Sgull @ Mar 10 2009 - 14:12:08)
banks that got bailed out are subject to strict regulation, i like that idea, i just dont like that they got bailed out


is the gov't taxing the bailouts
 
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Quote (Sgull @ Mar 10 2009 - 14:12:08)
banks that got bailed out are subject to strict regulation, i like that idea, i just dont like that they got bailed out


is the gov't taxing the bailouts
probably not, but when you take the bailout you basically get owned by the government

 
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federal reserve system causes the problem, they encourage and enforce

if you have free market banking these kinds of panics/depressions go away, but then there isnt one single currency that everyone pays there taxes in, so the government has issues because of all the money laundering/tax evasion (which IMO is fine, but some people would not like)
 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt
 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded

 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit
 
#492113 | Tue - Mar 10 2009 - 21:48:45
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit
people that have over 100+k in a bank are idiots, and should lose their life savings

 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit
people that have over 100+k in a bank are idiots, and should lose their life savings


i disgaree
 
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would not have bank runs if we did not have leverage
 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit
people that have over 100+k in a bank are idiots, and should lose their life savings


i disgaree


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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit
people that have over 100+k in a bank are idiots, and should lose their life savings


i disgaree
youre an idiot

 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit
people that have over 100+k in a bank are idiots, and should lose their life savings


should invest in real estate imo
 
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spencers "im a good republican" card was just revoked for his approval on this matter


Nancy Reagan
 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit
people that have over 100+k in a bank are idiots, and should lose their life savings


should invest in real estate imo


that would have been a good investment
 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit


250k these days
 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit
people that have over 100+k in a bank are idiots, and should lose their life savings


i disgaree
youre an idiot


why, what would you put it in?
 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit


250k these days


ohh, didnt know they updated it
 
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Not to mention that bank bailouts were less for the depositors and more for all the businesses in the country that get their financing from these banks.
 
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so spencer, as a conservative, where you do think the government's role should play into all of this?


Let them go Bankrupt


yep, and deal with the outrage of all the citizens who lose their life savings in the process
have you ever heard of the FDIC or are you really that retarded


100k limit


250k these days


ohh, didnt know they updated it


yea for the crisis, its 250k until november i think
 
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Not to mention that bank bailouts were less for the depositors and more for all the businesses in the country that get their financing from these banks.


yea, no one cares about us normal folk
 
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Not to mention that bank bailouts were less for the depositors and more for all the businesses in the country that get their financing from these banks.


yea, no one cares about us normal folk


well once businesses stop getting money, they stop operating, they stop making money, everybody is fucked
 
#492513 | Wed - Mar 11 2009 - 12:17:31
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Not to mention that bank bailouts were less for the depositors and more for all the businesses in the country that get their financing from these banks.


yea, no one cares about us normal folk


well once businesses stop getting money, they stop operating, they stop making money, everybody is fucked


and people stop getting money too
 
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