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#694308 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 18:48:29
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#694311 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 19:08:22
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Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 16:37:43)
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It is bad because it violates rights. Americans should have the right to choose whether they want healthcare or clearly.

The new bill calls for fines to be imposed on those that do clearly buy into the public option.

And since most people won't be able to even afford the public option, they just won't pay it and take the fine. So when it comes that people need medical care, the money isn't going to come from the money congress hopes to make with this new system, it is going to go straight into taxpayers pockets that was clearly supposed to be spent on healthcare.

Then when we can't afford that, we will go to china and borrow more money to ensure we have no future. Also this will destroy the entire private market of healthcare.


violates rights lol
so does the irs, and since car insurance is mandatory, your logic is null
and trust me, if "most" people take the fine over having the insurance then the system will change.
it wont destroy private health care, those can can continue to pay for policies that increase in price 10-20% a year will continue to purchase them)

you have made zero sense. you dont have to agree with it but have logical reasons.


So what makes you think I agree with the IRS?

Watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDK5nB3_8Ec


wat
you dont have to agree with the irs, but your point of it violating your rights is ridiculous and a nonpoint.
destroying our current health care system may be the only way to fix something that is that big and entrenched. our system is going out of control. you dont know this because you have clearly watched your premiums raise 10-20% a year. clearly so bad when its 70 bucks a month. now that my premium for just me is about 170, and it raises at min 17% a year the last 5 years, well, ill let you extrapolate it over the next 10 years.

btw, :nct: your link at work


The new healthcare reform proposed does clearly fix the cost issue. All it does it make a public option and make those who choose clearly to have the healthcare to pay fines.


its putting amounts on what the policies will cost, and how much the fine will be. if you make 400% or less of the legal poverty line then your policy will be a set amount.
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For example, for a four-person family unit with two children, the 2008 poverty threshold is $21,834

so if you make 400% of that number or less you can now actually afford insurance.

what you dont realize is that within 5-10 years employers will no longer be able to offer insurance. its entirely too expensive. this will allow the average family (88k is a fairly modest house, but also a very real household in america) to get affordable insurance. you saying everyone will be just saying fuck it and paying the fine is like saying we have this entire population of women going out getting knocked up just to get an extra 50 bucks a week of welfare. its happens, it is clearly the norm.
 
#694312 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 19:11:10
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anyway. this is clearly the best solution. but we cant just go to the best solution (whatever that is) because we are so entrenched in a system that absolutely takes advantage of the fact health insurance does clearly operate like a free market). so government control on a market that is increasing rates at unheard of speeds will potentially now be controlled for the average american household. you should go look up how much insurance companies make off of health insurance, then tell me what we had was good. any step towards improvement is ok, as long as we are moving. we have been standing still for quite some time.
 
#694313 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 19:15:39
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anyway.  this is clearly the best solution.  but we cant just go to the best solution (whatever that is) because we are so entrenched in a system that absolutely takes advantage of the fact health insurance does clearly operate like a free market).  so government control on a market that is increasing rates at unheard of speeds will potentially now be controlled for the average american household.  you should go look up how much insurance companies make off of health insurance, then tell me what we had was good.  any step towards improvement is ok, as long as we are moving.  we have been standing still for quite some time.


yeah im starting to think theres actually a chance this government plan might help. just because of how fucked insurance is
 
#694314 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 19:16:29
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didnt read any of pg 3
 
#694315 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 19:16:40
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didnt read any of pg 3


guessing it involves evan trying to troll joe
 
#694316 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 19:16:52
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didnt read any of pg 3


guessing it involves evan trying to troll joe


so im clearly gonna bother reading it
 
#694317 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 19:17:42
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didnt read any of pg 3


guessing it involves evan trying to troll joe


i believe evan and i played devils advocate quite will throughout this toilet
 
#694397 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 09:48:56
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34609984/

just a short faq, and yes, i know, its a liberal news site hellbent on skewing the facts. ill try to find a comparable one on fox.
 
#694398 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 10:02:22
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to be honest i dont know what to think, but as far as what i know about the bill im clearly convinced this is the answer.
 
#694399 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 10:08:07
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clearly
 
#694400 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 10:08:34
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Quote (Norse @ Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 17:08:07)
clearly


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#694401 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 10:11:25
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i now have the utmost confidence in obama to lead my nation and to run my life in a successful direction
 
#694402 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 10:12:51
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Quote (Sgull @ Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 10:11:25)
i now have the utmost confidence in obama to lead my nation and to run my life in a successful direction


yea.....no
 
#694403 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 10:20:23
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 07:48:56)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34609984/

just a short faq, and yes, i know, its a liberal news site hellbent on skewing the facts.  ill try to find a comparable one on fox.


http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/23/he...ppens-and-when/
 
#694405 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 10:22:16
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one only hopes we are smart enough to continue to fund education to the fullest
it wont be the lack of money our schools have, but education is an easy place to shave a few bucks
 
#694422 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 11:07:53
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http://www.washingtonpoop.com/wp-srv/speci...av=most_emailed

3 questions to answer and it tells you how the bill affects you
 
#694423 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 11:08:17
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http://www.washingtonpoop.com/wp-srv/speci...av=most_emailed

3 questions to answer and it tells you how the bill affects you


also, use your brains with the link
 
#694434 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 11:34:32
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because we dont have the money to pay for it.  the reason american healthcare is the best is because it is exclusive, meaning clearly everyone has access to it.  sorry to say but if you want immediate treatment, and you want it done right, this is probably the only way to accomplish this.

now we can join canada and europe in long lines for treatment, even the little shit like hip replacements


really? the world health organization seems to think that america's healthcare is number 37 in the world
pull your head out your ass PLIZ
 
#694440 | Tue - Mar 23 2010 - 11:59:42
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because we dont have the money to pay for it.  the reason american healthcare is the best is because it is exclusive, meaning clearly everyone has access to it.  sorry to say but if you want immediate treatment, and you want it done right, this is probably the only way to accomplish this.

now we can join canada and europe in long lines for treatment, even the little shit like hip replacements


really? the world health organization seems to think that america's healthcare is number 37 in the world
pull your head out your ass PLIZ


its based on % of GDP spent on healthcare, lol. clearly quality
 
#694714 | Wed - Mar 24 2010 - 13:00:29
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because this belongs here:

Guy goes into a bar, there's a robot bartender.
The robot says, "What will you have?"
The guy says, "Martini."
The robot brings back the best martini ever and says to the man, "What's your IQ?"
The guy says, "168."
The robot then proceeds to talk out physics, space exploration and medical technology.
The guy leaves, but he is curious...

So he goes back into the bar.
The robot bartender says, "What will you have?"
The guy says, "Martini."
Again, the robot makes a great martini gives it to the man and says,
"What's your IQ?"
The guy says, "100."
The robot then starts to talk about Nascar, Budweiser and John Deere tractors.
The guy leaves, but finds it very interesting, so he thinks he will try it one more time.

He goes back into the bar.
The robot says, "What will you have?"
The guy says, "Martini," and the robot brings him another great martini.
The robot then says, "What's your IQ?"
The guy says, "Uh, about 50."
The robot leans in real close and says,
"So, you people still happy you voted for Obama?"
 
#694716 | Wed - Mar 24 2010 - 13:17:32
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come on and tell me

you make this all go away
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