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#694160 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:38:11
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the real issues in america:
our core jobs, manufacturing, now reside in china
china, being crafty little devils, have the value of their dollar tied directly to ours.  this means no matter who thing go on the world economic stage, it will always be cheaper for them to build the countless gadgets that we love, thus clearly being a free market which should by rights balance itself out.  ofc this wont actually matter because we have central and south america and the rest of asia, and eventually africa, to set up our factories.  long story short, america will never again be what we remember, or how we have always viewed ourselves.


ya we need to make it illegal to buy from china, only buying american products


would never work, we need to understand that education is the key.





pg 2

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age old argument with taxes, the only important aspect should be a percentage paid.  no loop holes, no deductions.  everyone should pay exactly the same percentage.


i would agree with this, but the libs believe that the rich should pay a far higher %
 
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the real issues in america:
our core jobs, manufacturing, now reside in china
china, being crafty little devils, have the value of their dollar tied directly to ours.  this means no matter who thing go on the world economic stage, it will always be cheaper for them to build the countless gadgets that we love, thus clearly being a free market which should by rights balance itself out.  ofc this wont actually matter because we have central and south america and the rest of asia, and eventually africa, to set up our factories.  long story short, america will never again be what we remember, or how we have always viewed ourselves.


ya we need to make it illegal to buy from china, only buying american products


would never work, we need to understand that education is the key.





pg 2


i agree
 
#694163 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:40:04
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the real issues in america:
our core jobs, manufacturing, now reside in china
china, being crafty little devils, have the value of their dollar tied directly to ours.  this means no matter who thing go on the world economic stage, it will always be cheaper for them to build the countless gadgets that we love, thus clearly being a free market which should by rights balance itself out.  ofc this wont actually matter because we have central and south america and the rest of asia, and eventually africa, to set up our factories.  long story short, america will never again be what we remember, or how we have always viewed ourselves.


ya we need to make it illegal to buy from china, only buying american products


would never work, we need to understand that education is the key.





pg 2


i agree


but if you are educated, you can find a simple way to make complex products. then u can train a monkey to make the complex products (chinamen). and we have the same problem
 
#694164 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:41:41
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now that you can see all you have done
its time to take that step into the kingdom
all your sins will only make you strong


joe you should be listening to this


i didnt do well in school, remember
can you explain it


i can explain that because you didnt do well in school, i will be taking care of you with my taxes, and it makes me angry


you do know that this also reduces the extreme wast that is medicare right? so overall we are reducing the deficit which will ruin us long before this supposed end of the world health care bill will.


so they claim. 50% of the money from the bill comes from ppl making > 250k. SUCKS


a % point on the average 20-50k a year is far less than a point from 250k


u mean 20-50k gets 1% , paying 200-500 bucks, where 250k gets 20%. paying 50,000 bucks


on top of normal taxes


wat
no one is paying 20% more in taxes than another, except for the wealthy who can utilize deductions and loop holes. taxes can clearly be looked at as a dollar amount comparison for obvious reasons. but i really have no idea what this poop even means.
 
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now that you can see all you have done
its time to take that step into the kingdom
all your sins will only make you strong


joe you should be listening to this


i didnt do well in school, remember
can you explain it


i can explain that because you didnt do well in school, i will be taking care of you with my taxes, and it makes me angry


you do know that this also reduces the extreme wast that is medicare right? so overall we are reducing the deficit which will ruin us long before this supposed end of the world health care bill will.


so they claim. 50% of the money from the bill comes from ppl making > 250k. SUCKS


a % point on the average 20-50k a year is far less than a point from 250k


u mean 20-50k gets 1% , paying 200-500 bucks, where 250k gets 20%. paying 50,000 bucks


on top of normal taxes


wat
no one is paying 20% more in taxes than another, except for the wealthy who can utilize deductions and loop holes. taxes can clearly be looked at as a dollar amount comparison for obvious reasons. but i really have no idea what this poop even means.


you think i know? i dont i just typed some conservative garbage
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 08:58:46)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 10:49:14)
now that you can see all you have done
its time to take that step into the kingdom
all your sins will only make you strong


joe you should be listening to this


i didnt do well in school, remember
can you explain it


i can explain that because you didnt do well in school, i will be taking care of you with my taxes, and it makes me angry


you do know that this also reduces the extreme wast that is medicare right? so overall we are reducing the deficit which will ruin us long before this supposed end of the world health care bill will.


so they claim. 50% of the money from the bill comes from ppl making > 250k. SUCKS


a % point on the average 20-50k a year is far less than a point from 250k


u mean 20-50k gets 1% , paying 200-500 bucks, where 250k gets 20%. paying 50,000 bucks


on top of normal taxes


wat
no one is paying 20% more in taxes than another, except for the wealthy who can utilize deductions and loop holes. taxes can clearly be looked at as a dollar amount comparison for obvious reasons. but i really have no idea what this poop even means.


you think i know? i dont i just typed some conservative garbage


but i know in maryland the % increases depending on what u make
 
#694167 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:45:25
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http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouth...taxrate_MD.html

thats clearly that bad actually, 5% highest
 
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http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouth...taxrate_MD.html

thats clearly that bad actually, 5% highest


so federal is like 15%, state like 5%, then u gotta pay SS/medicare, and county taxes. then property if u got it
 
#694170 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:49:16
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thats clearly that bad actually, 5% highest


so federal is like 15%, state like 5%, then u gotta pay SS/medicare, and county taxes. then property if u got it


if u are middle its like 25% + 5 + bullshit

rich its 35 + 7 + bullshit
 
#694171 | Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:50:41
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so yeah rich vs poor, federal + state is like (35%+7%)-(15%+4%) = 23% increase
 
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now we gotta tack on healthcare, which you know what, i dont mind if it works like it should. insurance made cheaper, etc etc etc
 
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now we gotta tack on healthcare, which you know what, i dont mind if it works like it should.  insurance made cheaper, etc etc etc


but it will clearly work
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 09:38:46)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:36:45)
age old argument with taxes, the only important aspect should be a percentage paid.  no loop holes, no deductions.  everyone should pay exactly the same percentage.


i would agree with this, but the libs believe that the rich should pay a far higher %


i dont believe thats 100% true, just like i dont believe most of the over reactionary things one side says about the other.
has there been groups of dems who thought that way? sure. you also have some douche bags on your side of the fence who take things too far and tarnish what the true goal of the party is.

either way, no simple answer to a very complicated problem. one thing i do know is if nothing changes myself, along with anyone else making less than 75k a year, will either have no health insurance or have to decide on living absolutely poor just to make sure they can actually go to the doctor when they need to.
 
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http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouth...taxrate_MD.html

thats clearly that bad actually, 5% highest


so federal is like 15%, state like 5%, then u gotta pay SS/medicare, and county taxes. then property if u got it


if u are middle its like 25% + 5 + bullshit

rich its 35 + 7 + bullshit


what i really want to know is what % the people over, say 100k, or 250k etc, actually pay once they do all the creative accounting tricks.
 
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:53:47)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 09:38:46)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:36:45)
age old argument with taxes, the only important aspect should be a percentage paid.  no loop holes, no deductions.  everyone should pay exactly the same percentage.


i would agree with this, but the libs believe that the rich should pay a far higher %


i dont believe thats 100% true, just like i dont believe most of the over reactionary things one side says about the other.
has there been groups of dems who thought that way? sure. you also have some douche bags on your side of the fence who take things too far and tarnish what the true goal of the party is.

either way, no simple answer to a very complicated problem. one thing i do know is if nothing changes myself, along with anyone else making less than 75k a year, will either have no health insurance or have to decide on living absolutely poor just to make sure they can actually go to the doctor when they need to.


ya insurance is fucked
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:45:25)
http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouth...taxrate_MD.html

thats clearly that bad actually, 5% highest


so federal is like 15%, state like 5%, then u gotta pay SS/medicare, and county taxes. then property if u got it


if u are middle its like 25% + 5 + bullshit

rich its 35 + 7 + bullshit


what i really want to know is what % the people over, say 100k, or 250k etc, actually pay once they do all the creative accounting tricks.


donno but i would do the tricks too
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 09:56:58)
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http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouth...taxrate_MD.html

thats clearly that bad actually, 5% highest


so federal is like 15%, state like 5%, then u gotta pay SS/medicare, and county taxes. then property if u got it


if u are middle its like 25% + 5 + bullshit

rich its 35 + 7 + bullshit


what i really want to know is what % the people over, say 100k, or 250k etc, actually pay once they do all the creative accounting tricks.


donno but i would do the tricks too


you would be an idiot to clearly take the advantages laid out to you
 
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http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouth...taxrate_MD.html

thats clearly that bad actually, 5% highest


so federal is like 15%, state like 5%, then u gotta pay SS/medicare, and county taxes. then property if u got it


if u are middle its like 25% + 5 + bullshit

rich its 35 + 7 + bullshit


what i really want to know is what % the people over, say 100k, or 250k etc, actually pay once they do all the creative accounting tricks.


donno but i would do the tricks too


you would be an idiot to clearly take the advantages laid out to you


ya ofc
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Mon - Mar 22 2010 - 11:57:53)
i feed off of poops


What the fuck are you doing
 
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i feed off of poops


What the fuck are you doing


feeding off of poops
 
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i feed off of poops


What the fuck are you doing


feeding off of poops


Fucking up a legit toilet and ignoring poops in other toilets that are directed at you is a better answer ya numbnuts.
 
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i feed off of poops


What the fuck are you doing


feeding off of poops


Fucking up a legit toilet and ignoring poops in other toilets that are directed at you is a better answer ya numbnuts.


 
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i feed off of poops


What the fuck are you doing


feeding off of poops


Fucking up a legit toilet and ignoring poops in other toilets that are directed at you is a better answer ya numbnuts.


theres other poops in other toilets?
 
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answered
 
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i feed off of poops


What the fuck are you doing


feeding off of poops


Fucking up a legit toilet and ignoring poops in other toilets that are directed at you is a better answer ya numbnuts.

also realized i had no idea what i was talking about so i obviously fucked up this toilet long ago
 
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