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#717242 | Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:42:57
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pooping this link just so people can fact check etc: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
i don't really care much about american politics since it's mired in shyte but i think discussions like this may benefit from having the info from the actual bill at hand. imo the shape a bill takes is one thing, and what happens to it upon implementation is another thing altogether. as a general rule, i think the concept of 'countries' is more or less politically retarded, but we've had countries for a long time. i don't think explaining why countries are a part of ruining the world matters, since it's clearly going to change anything atm. so as soon as immigration discussions open up, i automatically file them into the retarded bin. but since we DO have countries, my main line of thinking is that if people can find a way to make immigration more or less seamless, without destroying cultures or ruining how people can contribute to cultures, then that's the most gz possible state of affairs. particular bills and stuff don't really play into my thinking; nor do particular multi-nation economic arrangements, etc

[aside: the US will be completely fucked if they crackdown on a vital part of their workforce, imo]
 
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Quote (RewtheBrave @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:15:53)
pooping this link just so people can fact check etc: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
i don't really care much about american politics since it's mired in shyte but i think discussions like this may benefit from having the info from the actual bill at hand. imo the shape a bill takes is one thing, and what happens to it upon implementation is another thing altogether. as a general rule, i think the concept of 'countries' is more or less politically retarded, but we've had countries for a long time. i don't think explaining why countries are a part of ruining the world matters, since it's clearly going to change anything atm. so as soon as immigration discussions open up, i automatically file them into the retarded bin. but since we DO have countries, my main line of thinking is that if people can find a way to make immigration more or less seamless, without destroying cultures or ruining how people can contribute to cultures, then that's the most gz possible state of affairs. particular bills and stuff don't really play into my thinking; nor do particular multi-nation economic arrangements, etc

[aside: the US will be completely fucked if they crackdown on a vital part of their workforce, imo]


ohh you utopian you
 
#717288 | Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 16:00:30
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:36:05)
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:15:53)
pooping this link just so people can fact check etc: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
i don't really care much about american politics since it's mired in shyte but i think discussions like this may benefit from having the info from the actual bill at hand. imo the shape a bill takes is one thing, and what happens to it upon implementation is another thing altogether. as a general rule, i think the concept of 'countries' is more or less politically retarded, but we've had countries for a long time. i don't think explaining why countries are a part of ruining the world matters, since it's clearly going to change anything atm. so as soon as immigration discussions open up, i automatically file them into the retarded bin. but since we DO have countries, my main line of thinking is that if people can find a way to make immigration more or less seamless, without destroying cultures or ruining how people can contribute to cultures, then that's the most gz possible state of affairs. particular bills and stuff don't really play into my thinking; nor do particular multi-nation economic arrangements, etc

[aside: the US will be completely fucked if they crackdown on a vital part of their workforce, imo]


ohh you utopian you


its going to take all the dirty leech illegals to be gone and for us to still have an entire portion of our society that do clearly want to work to realize that we need people who will do horrible jobs for next to nothing because its better than where they came from. its basically who we have always been.
 
#717324 | Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 16:33:29
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 16:00:30)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:36:05)
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:15:53)
pooping this link just so people can fact check etc: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
i don't really care much about american politics since it's mired in shyte but i think discussions like this may benefit from having the info from the actual bill at hand. imo the shape a bill takes is one thing, and what happens to it upon implementation is another thing altogether. as a general rule, i think the concept of 'countries' is more or less politically retarded, but we've had countries for a long time. i don't think explaining why countries are a part of ruining the world matters, since it's clearly going to change anything atm. so as soon as immigration discussions open up, i automatically file them into the retarded bin. but since we DO have countries, my main line of thinking is that if people can find a way to make immigration more or less seamless, without destroying cultures or ruining how people can contribute to cultures, then that's the most gz possible state of affairs. particular bills and stuff don't really play into my thinking; nor do particular multi-nation economic arrangements, etc

[aside: the US will be completely fucked if they crackdown on a vital part of their workforce, imo]


ohh you utopian you


its going to take all the dirty leech illegals to be gone and for us to still have an entire portion of our society that do clearly want to work to realize that we need people who will do horrible jobs for next to nothing because its better than where they came from. its basically who we have always been.


I would be more than willing to clean shit for a reasonable amount of money.

And this "reasonable" amount of money is obviously never seen eye to eye by those who have and those who have clearly, hence our unjust economic class system.
 
#717363 | Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 19:21:33
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Rew - Read my poop(s)on pg 2, and then jump off a bridge.
 
#717531 | Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 15:15:17
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Quote (MoS. @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 17:33:29)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 16:00:30)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:36:05)
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:15:53)
pooping this link just so people can fact check etc: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
i don't really care much about american politics since it's mired in shyte but i think discussions like this may benefit from having the info from the actual bill at hand. imo the shape a bill takes is one thing, and what happens to it upon implementation is another thing altogether. as a general rule, i think the concept of 'countries' is more or less politically retarded, but we've had countries for a long time. i don't think explaining why countries are a part of ruining the world matters, since it's clearly going to change anything atm. so as soon as immigration discussions open up, i automatically file them into the retarded bin. but since we DO have countries, my main line of thinking is that if people can find a way to make immigration more or less seamless, without destroying cultures or ruining how people can contribute to cultures, then that's the most gz possible state of affairs. particular bills and stuff don't really play into my thinking; nor do particular multi-nation economic arrangements, etc

[aside: the US will be completely fucked if they crackdown on a vital part of their workforce, imo]


ohh you utopian you


its going to take all the dirty leech illegals to be gone and for us to still have an entire portion of our society that do clearly want to work to realize that we need people who will do horrible jobs for next to nothing because its better than where they came from. its basically who we have always been.


I would be more than willing to clean shit for a reasonable amount of money.

And this "reasonable" amount of money is obviously never seen eye to eye by those who have and those who have clearly, hence our unjust economic class system.


the problem is that if u were willing to do those jobs, u would be doing one of them
 
#717532 | Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 15:17:23
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 20:21:33)
Rew - Read my poop(s)on pg 2, and then jump off a bridge.


The United States of Mexico salutes you :D
 
#717535 | Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 15:26:06
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Quote (RewtheBrave @ Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 13:15:17)
Quote (MoS. @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 17:33:29)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 16:00:30)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:36:05)
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:15:53)
pooping this link just so people can fact check etc: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
i don't really care much about american politics since it's mired in shyte but i think discussions like this may benefit from having the info from the actual bill at hand. imo the shape a bill takes is one thing, and what happens to it upon implementation is another thing altogether. as a general rule, i think the concept of 'countries' is more or less politically retarded, but we've had countries for a long time. i don't think explaining why countries are a part of ruining the world matters, since it's clearly going to change anything atm. so as soon as immigration discussions open up, i automatically file them into the retarded bin. but since we DO have countries, my main line of thinking is that if people can find a way to make immigration more or less seamless, without destroying cultures or ruining how people can contribute to cultures, then that's the most gz possible state of affairs. particular bills and stuff don't really play into my thinking; nor do particular multi-nation economic arrangements, etc

[aside: the US will be completely fucked if they crackdown on a vital part of their workforce, imo]


ohh you utopian you


its going to take all the dirty leech illegals to be gone and for us to still have an entire portion of our society that do clearly want to work to realize that we need people who will do horrible jobs for next to nothing because its better than where they came from. its basically who we have always been.


I would be more than willing to clean shit for a reasonable amount of money.

And this "reasonable" amount of money is obviously never seen eye to eye by those who have and those who have clearly, hence our unjust economic class system.


the problem is that if u were willing to do those jobs, u would be doing one of them


to add to that, anyone born in america feels it is beneath them to clean shit for 8 bucks an hour. anyone from a shithole (heh) 3rd world country 8 bucks an hour to shovel shit is better than 16 hours in the rice patties where all you earn is the ability to ward off hunger.
 
#717566 | Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 17:19:26
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Quote (RewtheBrave @ Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 15:15:17)
Quote (MoS. @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 17:33:29)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 16:00:30)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:36:05)
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:15:53)
pooping this link just so people can fact check etc: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
i don't really care much about american politics since it's mired in shyte but i think discussions like this may benefit from having the info from the actual bill at hand. imo the shape a bill takes is one thing, and what happens to it upon implementation is another thing altogether. as a general rule, i think the concept of 'countries' is more or less politically retarded, but we've had countries for a long time. i don't think explaining why countries are a part of ruining the world matters, since it's clearly going to change anything atm. so as soon as immigration discussions open up, i automatically file them into the retarded bin. but since we DO have countries, my main line of thinking is that if people can find a way to make immigration more or less seamless, without destroying cultures or ruining how people can contribute to cultures, then that's the most gz possible state of affairs. particular bills and stuff don't really play into my thinking; nor do particular multi-nation economic arrangements, etc

[aside: the US will be completely fucked if they crackdown on a vital part of their workforce, imo]


ohh you utopian you


its going to take all the dirty leech illegals to be gone and for us to still have an entire portion of our society that do clearly want to work to realize that we need people who will do horrible jobs for next to nothing because its better than where they came from. its basically who we have always been.


I would be more than willing to clean shit for a reasonable amount of money.

And this "reasonable" amount of money is obviously never seen eye to eye by those who have and those who have clearly, hence our unjust economic class system.


the problem is that if u were willing to do those jobs, u would be doing one of them


They do clearly pay a reasonable wage, so no, that is clearly true.
 
#717571 | Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 17:34:10
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Quote (MoS. @ Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 15:19:26)
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 15:15:17)
Quote (MoS. @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 17:33:29)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 16:00:30)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:36:05)
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 13:15:53)
pooping this link just so people can fact check etc: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
i don't really care much about american politics since it's mired in shyte but i think discussions like this may benefit from having the info from the actual bill at hand. imo the shape a bill takes is one thing, and what happens to it upon implementation is another thing altogether. as a general rule, i think the concept of 'countries' is more or less politically retarded, but we've had countries for a long time. i don't think explaining why countries are a part of ruining the world matters, since it's clearly going to change anything atm. so as soon as immigration discussions open up, i automatically file them into the retarded bin. but since we DO have countries, my main line of thinking is that if people can find a way to make immigration more or less seamless, without destroying cultures or ruining how people can contribute to cultures, then that's the most gz possible state of affairs. particular bills and stuff don't really play into my thinking; nor do particular multi-nation economic arrangements, etc

[aside: the US will be completely fucked if they crackdown on a vital part of their workforce, imo]


ohh you utopian you


its going to take all the dirty leech illegals to be gone and for us to still have an entire portion of our society that do clearly want to work to realize that we need people who will do horrible jobs for next to nothing because its better than where they came from. its basically who we have always been.


I would be more than willing to clean shit for a reasonable amount of money.

And this "reasonable" amount of money is obviously never seen eye to eye by those who have and those who have clearly, hence our unjust economic class system.


the problem is that if u were willing to do those jobs, u would be doing one of them


They do clearly pay a reasonable wage, so no, that is clearly true.


Quote (blind_chief @ Wed - Jun 2 2010 - 13:26:06)
to add to that, anyone born in america feels it is beneath them to clean shit for 8 bucks an hour.  anyone from a shithole (heh) 3rd world country 8 bucks an hour to shovel shit is better than 16 hours in the rice patties where all you earn is the ability to ward off hunger.

 
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Quote (hedonism @ Tue - Jun 1 2010 - 10:16:55)
looks like youre just more offended that there are people in this country who live a different culture and aren't willing to accept yours
 
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i'm too :drtunk: to read all this
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