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#762226 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:09:11
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Is it possible to inherit more, per se loci or dominant/recessive traits from one parent over the other?
What I mean is to have more of a genetic relationship to one biological parent than the other (like being more similar in DNA to your mother than your father)

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#762227 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:10:35
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Nope.
 
#762228 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:12:12
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Quote (seth @ Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:10:35)
Nope.


Really, I swore it was possible somewhere, hmm

How bout this? You have more of your Father's Dominant traits but you look physically more like your mother.

Possible? These might be stupid questions but I haven't taken Bio in ages, and if anyone has any books I could read recommend them.
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#762230 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:17:08
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yes, it is entirely possible
 
#762232 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:18:44
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when the gametes combine (sperm and egg) one side of each chromosome doesnt just break off completely and go to contribute to you.

so i guess the answer is yes and no, you wont exhibit a more higher % of your mom or your dad, but you may exhibit a higher % of your grandma or your grandpa
 
#762233 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:20:27
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you have 2 of each chromosome, but to get to the form that involves 1, there is a "recombination" event where random portions of each of the chromosomes interchange (which means your parents parents DNA mix up randomly, but on a gene to gene basis, clearly like a random soup goop)
 
#762235 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:21:59
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are you asking about your condition
 
#762236 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:27:00
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i reread your question and this situation is possible, where R is dominant.

dad is RR in every single gene, and mom is Rr in every gene, where r is recessive. she appears just like dad because she carries one of the gene and they are exclusively dominant and recessive.

if you receive all r's from mom, and all R's from dad you will essentially inherit dad, but you will carry mom for the future basically

that case makes you 100% resemble dad so it is possible on the terms of your question



sorry for the Rew response
 
#762237 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:28:05
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Nah, my condition is pretty solid genetically, I'm asking because I'm writing fiction and I would like to have the suspension of disbelief as real as possible, plus I'm just interested in it and might actually buy a good book on it
 
#762238 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:31:17
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i guess id have to hear what youre planning

genetics is all about chance
 
#762239 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:31:53
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its so dense, there are so many different factors

like DOMINANT EPISTASIS
 
#762241 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:37:01
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Quote (Sgull @ Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:31:17)
i guess id have to hear what youre planning

genetics is all about chance


It's somewhat confusing at the moment, generic "mutant" inheritance but with a few twists and restrictions that are clearly in other graphic novels/one shots just want to get everything solidified before I draw anything
 
#762242 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:45:56
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:37:01)
Quote (Sgull @ Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:31:17)
i guess id have to hear what youre planning

genetics is all about chance


It's somewhat confusing at the moment, generic "mutant" inheritance but with a few twists and restrictions that are clearly in other graphic novels/one shots just want to get everything solidified before I draw anything


mutancy is just an error in replication of the line

when it happens in the germ line (gametes) is when entirely new data is published

but its usually only one nucleotide so it often doesnt disrupt too much, but it can completely disable genes, or enable new ones
 
#762243 | Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:56:12
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ah I see, thanks Spencer/Seth, I should hit up the library to read a bit more on this shit.
Thanks for the course of info
 
#762294 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:24:05
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Sun - Oct 24 2010 - 23:56:12)
ah I see, thanks Spencer/Seth, I should hit up the library to read a bit more on this shit.
Thanks for the course of info


yeah if you ever want to talk about it on vent or something id be down for some q's
 
#762301 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:38:06
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Are you trying to tell me you have tits?
 
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Quote (xstakemx @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 17:38:06)
Are you trying to tell me you have tits?


redneck genetics at it finest
 
#762306 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:41:03
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 00:09:11)
(like being more similar in DNA to your mother than your father)

???


 
#762308 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:41:49
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 00:09:11)
(like being more similar in DNA to your mother than your father)

???


This post has been edited by Vogan on Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:42:01
 
#762309 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:42:18
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This poop has been edited by Vogan on Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 17:42:01
 
#762310 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:44:10
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So DNA has nothing to do with you being a male or female vogan...is that what you are saying?
 
#762311 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:45:44
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come one man?! don't dig your own grave








or this was intended to be a joke?
 
#762313 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:50:45
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Quote (Vogan @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:45:44)
come one man?! don't dig your own grave








or this was intended to be a joke?


come one, come all
 
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from now on: one means on
 
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Quote (Vogan @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:53:18)
from now on: one means on


from now one
 
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Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:53:54)
Quote (Vogan @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 10:53:18)
from now on: one means on


from now one


and from one, now
 
#762368 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 13:22:04
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yes
 
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Ok, now, theoretically all humans[b] posses [b]at least one gene in common from our Most recent Y-chromosomal Adam and mT Eve Ancestors right?

 
#762419 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 18:53:34
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 18:50:04)
Ok, now, theoretically all humans[b] posses [b]at least one gene in common from our Most recent Y-chromosomal Adam and mT Eve Ancestors right?


probably have more in common than clearly in common

to be more to the point, probably have 99.5% or higher amount in common with them
 
#762421 | Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 18:57:04
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Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 18:53:34)
Quote (MalcolmSex @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 18:50:04)
Ok, now, theoretically all humans[b] posses [b]at least one gene in common from our Most recent Y-chromosomal Adam and mT Eve Ancestors right?


probably have more in common than clearly in common

to be more to the point, probably have 99.5% or higher amount in common with them


ah ok, and excuse my fuck up, typed that laying down :\
 
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 00:09:11)
Is it possible to inherit more, per se loci or dominant/recessive traits from one parent over the other?
What I mean is to have more of a genetic relationship to one biological parent than the other (like being more similar in DNA to your mother than your father)

???


most of what spencer said is on point ...

men get most of there DNA from their mothers afaik. this is because of the asymmetry of chromosomes passed on by the father--the y is smaller than any x. this is why brothers are more closely related to brothers than sisters (but they don't get the exact same x chromosome). but actually sisters are even closer to sisters than brothers are to brothers, because they will share the identity of the X chromosome given by the father (it won't be a mixture). over generations Y chromosomes remain virtually intact, so it continues from father to son and so on and so forth, seemingly ad infinitum.

more to the point, your alleles will decide whether you're more "like" one parent than the other. if your parents are both homozygous for a sequence, you end up being heterozygous (50% like each of them), but if one is homozygous and the other is heterozygous, you end up 100% like one and 50% like the other; and, if both are heterozygous you have a 50% chance of being heterozygous and a 50% chance of being homozygous, so you fail to be identical to either parent (you will be 50% like both of them). but that's only going to be the case for that sequence. so you need to map out all the genetic "information", bearing in mind that for each sequence, you will be either 0%, 50% or 100% like either parent. you really only need to check the alleles (where the variations occur), which is only about .5% of the whole she-bang or several million nucleotides.

you can get that stuff checked out, but it's clearly going to be 100% accurate because there are way too many nucleotides to check. you will inevitably be more like one parent than the other. this plays directly into how you will look more like one than the other, but it will also have some effect on how you act and on your health, too.

 
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 00:09:11)
Is it possible to inherit more, per se loci or dominant/recessive traits from one parent over the other?
What I mean is to have more of a genetic relationship to one biological parent than the other (like being more similar in DNA to your mother than your father)

???


most of what spencer said is on point ...

men get most of there DNA from their mothers afaik. this is because of the asymmetry of chromosomes passed on by the father--the y is smaller than any x. this is why brothers are more closely related to brothers than sisters (but they don't get the exact same x chromosome). but actually sisters are even closer to sisters than brothers are to brothers, because they will share the identity of the X chromosome given by the father (it won't be a mixture). over generations Y chromosomes remain virtually intact, so it continues from father to son and so on and so forth, seemingly ad infinitum.

more to the point, your alleles will decide whether you're more "like" one parent than the other. if your parents are both homozygous for a sequence, you end up being heterozygous (50% like each of them), but if one is homozygous and the other is heterozygous, you end up 100% like one and 50% like the other; and, if both are heterozygous you have a 50% chance of being heterozygous and a 50% chance of being homozygous, so you fail to be identical to either parent (you will be 50% like both of them). but that's only going to be the case for that sequence. so you need to map out all the genetic "information", bearing in mind that for each sequence, you will be either 0%, 50% or 100% like either parent. you really only need to check the alleles (where the variations occur), which is only about .5% of the whole she-bang or several million nucleotides.

you can get that stuff checked out, but it's clearly going to be 100% accurate because there are way too many nucleotides to check. you will inevitably be more like one parent than the other. this plays directly into how you will look more like one than the other, but it will also have some effect on how you act and on your health, too.


the problem i have with this is that all genes are clearly cut and dry dominant and recessive
 
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Quote (RewtheBrave @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 20:09:51)
Quote (MalcolmSex @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 00:09:11)
Is it possible to inherit more, per se loci or dominant/recessive traits from one parent over the other?
What I mean is to have more of a genetic relationship to one biological parent than the other (like being more similar in DNA to your mother than your father)

???


most of what spencer said is on point ...

men get most of there DNA from their mothers afaik. this is because of the asymmetry of chromosomes passed on by the father--the y is smaller than any x. this is why brothers are more closely related to brothers than sisters (but they don't get the exact same x chromosome). but actually sisters are even closer to sisters than brothers are to brothers, because they will share the identity of the X chromosome given by the father (it won't be a mixture). over generations Y chromosomes remain virtually intact, so it continues from father to son and so on and so forth, seemingly ad infinitum.

more to the point, your alleles will decide whether you're more "like" one parent than the other. if your parents are both homozygous for a sequence, you end up being heterozygous (50% like each of them), but if one is homozygous and the other is heterozygous, you end up 100% like one and 50% like the other; and, if both are heterozygous you have a 50% chance of being heterozygous and a 50% chance of being homozygous, so you fail to be identical to either parent (you will be 50% like both of them). but that's only going to be the case for that sequence. so you need to map out all the genetic "information", bearing in mind that for each sequence, you will be either 0%, 50% or 100% like either parent. you really only need to check the alleles (where the variations occur), which is only about .5% of the whole she-bang or several million nucleotides.

you can get that stuff checked out, but it's clearly going to be 100% accurate because there are way too many nucleotides to check. you will inevitably be more like one parent than the other. this plays directly into how you will look more like one than the other, but it will also have some effect on how you act and on your health, too.


the problem i have with this is that all genes are clearly cut and dry dominant and recessive


that's true but it just complicates the model, which is already p complicated. i guess the idea for what he needs to know is that we're going to be more like mom and dad in testable, verifiable ways, but we will be looking at stuff forever before we get a clear picture of which parent is more like us. or maybe there are some really good tests these days. i haven't read much of this stuff since high school, but i remember that it was interesting.
 
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There's intermediate genes also right?
 
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There's intermediate genes also right?


yes, that's part of what spencer was saying in replying to me. this is important to the outcome of crossing genes--to the offspring and what traits it will have.
 
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interesting
 
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 21:26:23)
There's intermediate genes also right?


yes, that's part of what spencer was saying in replying to me. this is important to the outcome of crossing genes--to the offspring and what traits it will have.


to be sure, the traits themselves can be intermediate. the gene itself is just a unit of information. the alleles will carry forward the variation of traits.
 
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Mon - Oct 25 2010 - 18:50:04)
Ok, now, theoretically all humans[b] posses [b]at least one gene in common from our Most recent Y-chromosomal Adam and mT Eve Ancestors right?


probably have more in common than clearly in common

to be more to the point, probably have 99.5% or higher amount in common with them


our dna is like 98% identical to rats, and >99% idential to apes, so... yeah i would say this is a fair assumption
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