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Disparity Of Melee Vs. Ranged Characters
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#836696 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 13:18:02
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#836700 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 13:23:47
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Didnt read but every game ever has been omg ranged are safer let them do less dps
 
#836703 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:04:57
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Quote (smoked @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 13:23:47)
Didnt read but every game ever has been omg ranged are safer let them do less dps


Yeah, but this article is actually stating that 'omg ranged are safe, but they do way more DPS than any melee'
 
#836704 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:10:47
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never read a qq thread like this before - oh wait
 
#836707 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18
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reading any thread on the official forums is painful. why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga? the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time
 
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18)
reading any thread on the official forums is painful.  why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga?  the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time


I'm not talking about the actual post, im talking about the official response. Did you read it?
 
#836728 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 19:21:25
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Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 15:53:08)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18)
reading any thread on the official forums is painful.  why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga?  the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time


I'm not talking about the actual post, im talking about the official response. Did you read it?


Joe can't read. He's too busy sucking off Blizzard.
 
#836730 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 19:32:07
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melee players will always be second class citizens to caster players, just like in d2 :)
 
#836732 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 19:58:29
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 16:21:25)
Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 15:53:08)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18)
reading any thread on the official forums is painful.  why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga?  the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time


I'm not talking about the actual post, im talking about the official response. Did you read it?


Joe can't read. He's too busy sucking off Blizzard.


/idiort2012
 
#836735 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:05:28
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Quote (hippie @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:32:07)
melee players will always be second class citizens to caster players, just like in d2 :)


This.
 
#836737 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:07:07
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:58:29)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 16:21:25)
Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 15:53:08)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18)
reading any thread on the official forums is painful.  why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga?  the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time


I'm not talking about the actual post, im talking about the official response. Did you read it?


Joe can't read. He's too busy sucking off Blizzard.


/idiort2012


Blizzard actually admits problem, Joe keeps head in the sand.

Good times.
 
#836744 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:26:43
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 18:07:07)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:58:29)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 16:21:25)
Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 15:53:08)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18)
reading any thread on the official forums is painful.  why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga?  the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time


I'm not talking about the actual post, im talking about the official response. Did you read it?


Joe can't read. He's too busy sucking off Blizzard.


/idiort2012


Blizzard actually admits problem, Joe keeps head in the sand.

Good times.


the black guy never said he wanted to draw attention to the response, only just another "ranged v melee" post that is posted on every game that has ranged/melee.
 
#836749 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:32:17
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:26:43)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 18:07:07)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:58:29)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 16:21:25)
Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 15:53:08)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18)
reading any thread on the official forums is painful.  why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga?  the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time


I'm not talking about the actual post, im talking about the official response. Did you read it?


Joe can't read. He's too busy sucking off Blizzard.


/idiort2012


Blizzard actually admits problem, Joe keeps head in the sand.

Good times.


the black guy never said he wanted to draw attention to the response, only just another "ranged v melee" post that is posted on every game that has ranged/melee.


Well for someone who posts those huge fucking retarded articles that no one wants to read and flaunt your classy "I don't tl;dr because i'd like to be informed", you sure are a fucktard.
 
#836750 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:32:38
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Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:32:17)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:26:43)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 18:07:07)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:58:29)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 16:21:25)
Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 15:53:08)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18)
reading any thread on the official forums is painful.  why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga?  the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time


I'm not talking about the actual post, im talking about the official response. Did you read it?


Joe can't read. He's too busy sucking off Blizzard.


/idiort2012


Blizzard actually admits problem, Joe keeps head in the sand.

Good times.


the black guy never said he wanted to draw attention to the response, only just another "ranged v melee" post that is posted on every game that has ranged/melee.


Well for someone who posts those huge fucking retarded articles that no one wants to read and flaunt your classy "I don't tl;dr because i'd like to be informed", you sure are a fucktard.


/joes excuses.
 
#836753 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:37:18
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Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 18:32:17)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:26:43)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 18:07:07)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:58:29)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 16:21:25)
Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 15:53:08)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18)
reading any thread on the official forums is painful.  why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga?  the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time


I'm not talking about the actual post, im talking about the official response. Did you read it?


Joe can't read. He's too busy sucking off Blizzard.


/idiort2012


Blizzard actually admits problem, Joe keeps head in the sand.

Good times.


the black guy never said he wanted to draw attention to the response, only just another "ranged v melee" post that is posted on every game that has ranged/melee.


Well for someone who posts those huge fucking retarded articles that no one wants to read and flaunt your classy "I don't tl;dr because i'd like to be informed", you sure are a fucktard.


solid logic bro
tldr ranged is not op/melee is not gimped

allow me to explain
when gear catches up to content ranged will still be soft and melee will be indestructible
welcome to gaming
 
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 22:37:18)
Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 18:32:17)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:26:43)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 18:07:07)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:58:29)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 16:21:25)
Quote (seth @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 15:53:08)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 14:22:18)
reading any thread on the official forums is painful.  why is every post by a 12 year old girl who is crying because she didnt get frontrow tickets to lady gaga?  the forums are a cesspool of idiocy and trolls trolling trolls.

thanks for your time


I'm not talking about the actual post, im talking about the official response. Did you read it?


Joe can't read. He's too busy sucking off Blizzard.


/idiort2012


Blizzard actually admits problem, Joe keeps head in the sand.

Good times.


the black guy never said he wanted to draw attention to the response, only just another "ranged v melee" post that is posted on every game that has ranged/melee.


Well for someone who posts those huge fucking retarded articles that no one wants to read and flaunt your classy "I don't tl;dr because i'd like to be informed", you sure are a fucktard.


solid logic bro
tldr ranged is not op/melee is not gimped

allow me to explain
when gear catches up to content ranged will still be soft and melee will be indestructible
welcome to gaming


If that is the case, why did Blizzard admit to such? You know their game better than they do now? You're in the wrong field Broseph.
 
#836758 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:41:33
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So Joe gear for ranged chars will be stagnant?? Please

Blizzard admits to some flaws in how the game mechanics balance between the two and all you do is poo poo the notion calling it crying
 
#836760 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:41:56
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a very fair assessment of this argument can be found in the movie braveheart
 
#836761 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:45:18
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Quote (bubbachunk @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 18:41:33)
So Joe gear for ranged chars will be stagnant?? Please

Blizzard admits to some flaws in how the game mechanics balance between the two and all you do is poo poo the notion calling it crying


didnt say that, im not ignoring the current flaws and i never said as much.
jesus you guys have lost all objectivity.

should i quote what i said, maybe reword it?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_N6APHtFPWNc/TR3c...-Flow-Chart.jpg
leaving that here, take your time
 
#836762 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 21:51:54
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ill also add i didnt read a single thing in that thread. i was at work and was browsing their forums and was actually getting angry at the quality of posts on the site and used this thread as a mid-work vent.
stay mad bros
 
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the trusty blind_chief argument chart. we meet again.
 
#836767 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 22:18:05
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Quote (hippie @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 19:05:35)
the trusty blind_chief argument chart. we meet again.


i dont like that its christian/athiest but it still gets the point across
 
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#836776 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 23:21:18
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Joe is using the Spencer approach to arguing for D3.

 
#836777 | Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 23:21:23
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Quote (hippie @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:06:53)


+1 to you sir
 
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:21:18)
Joe is using the Spencer approach to arguing for D3.


i cant even believe you would make that claim
my original argument is this;
melee always scales better with gear, and as more high-end and specialized gear comes out melee will surpass ranged. not in pure dps but in ability to survive/dps.
feel free to counter this argument in 3 months when the gear is easy to get and the qq threads are about op barbs who dont die.
 
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 23:23:56)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:21:18)
Joe is using the Spencer approach to arguing for D3.


i cant even believe you would make that claim
my original argument is this;
melee always scales better with gear, and as more high-end and specialized gear comes out melee will surpass ranged. not in pure dps but in ability to survive/dps.
feel free to counter this argument in 3 months when the gear is easy to get and the qq threads are about op barbs who dont die.


That's the future. We're talking about the present. And how you don't read what you don't post.
 
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Quote (seth @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 11:20:21)
Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 23:23:56)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Tue - Jun 12 2012 - 20:21:18)
Joe is using the Spencer approach to arguing for D3.


i cant even believe you would make that claim
my original argument is this;
melee always scales better with gear, and as more high-end and specialized gear comes out melee will surpass ranged. not in pure dps but in ability to survive/dps.
feel free to counter this argument in 3 months when the gear is easy to get and the qq threads are about op barbs who dont die.


That's the future. We're talking about the present. And how you don't read what you don't post.


And please don't respond with an essay old man <3
 
#836809 | Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 14:09:27
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less tanking ability, more dps
less dps, more tanking ability
dont get what the problem is here
 
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Quote (seth @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 11:20:21)
And how you don't read what you don't post.


i have no counter to this sentence
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:09:27)
less tanking ability, more dps
less dps, more tanking ability
dont get what the problem is here


same
 
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Quote (cardoors32 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:25:47)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:09:27)
less tanking ability, more dps
less dps, more tanking ability
dont get what the problem is here


same


 
#836815 | Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:25:03
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Quote (___ @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:17:28)
Quote (cardoors32 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:25:47)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:09:27)
less tanking ability, more dps
less dps, more tanking ability
dont get what the problem is here


same


 
#836823 | Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 18:13:50
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Quote (MoS. @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:25:03)
Quote (___ @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:17:28)
Quote (cardoors32 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:25:47)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:09:27)
less tanking ability, more dps
less dps, more tanking ability
dont get what the problem is here


same


my barb can't tank for shit in Hell. Mind sharing some builds?
 
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Quote (seth @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 19:13:50)
Quote (MoS. @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:25:03)
Quote (___ @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:17:28)
Quote (cardoors32 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:25:47)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:09:27)
less tanking ability, more dps
less dps, more tanking ability
dont get what the problem is here


same


my barb can't tank for shit in Hell. Mind sharing some builds?


revenge, cleave, leap with armor rune

wc with + HP
 
#836825 | Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 18:47:35
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Quote (smoked @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 18:22:23)
Quote (seth @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 19:13:50)
Quote (MoS. @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:25:03)
Quote (___ @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:17:28)
Quote (cardoors32 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:25:47)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Wed - Jun 13 2012 - 15:09:27)
less tanking ability, more dps
less dps, more tanking ability
dont get what the problem is here


same


my barb can't tank for shit in Hell. Mind sharing some builds?


revenge, cleave, leap with armor rune

wc with + HP


revenge with provocation (30% proc)
leap with armor rune
frenzy with (%health on kill rune)
warcry (hp)
furious charge with juggernaut
wrath of the berserker (100% damage rune)
 
#836835 | Thu - Jun 14 2012 - 07:51:32
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god tier:

revenge

top tier:

superstition
tough as nails
nerves of steel
wrath (any rune)
warcry (hp or resists rune)
furious charge (dreadnought)

ok tier:

ignore pain
threatening shout
 
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Quote (___ @ Thu - Jun 14 2012 - 07:51:32)
god tier:

revenge

top tier:

superstition
tough as nails
nerves of steel
wrath (any rune)
warcry (hp or resists rune)
furious charge (dreadnought)
leap (armor rune). Its here because of its short cool down and massive armor on top of bro level ability to escape or initiate

ok tier:

ignore pain
threatening shout


 
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yes, totally forgot about iron impact
very pro, can work interchangeably with dreadnought
 
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I think my monk is now rolling in like a min of 15m worth of gear and getting stomped. Wonder how the nerf will affect players in 1.03
 
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Mon - Jun 18 2012 - 22:13:33)
I think my monk is now rolling in like a min of 15m worth of gear and getting stomped. Wonder how the nerf will affect players in 1.03


How is that even possible
 
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Quote (smoked @ Mon - Jun 18 2012 - 22:37:05)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Mon - Jun 18 2012 - 22:13:33)
I think my monk is now rolling in like a min of 15m worth of gear and getting stomped. Wonder how the nerf will affect players in 1.03


How is that even possible


My monk is doing very well right now, after I stacked one resistance (lightning) and then used the passive 'One with everything', all my res's skyrocket. My DPS is decent for A2 Hell, even solo'd butcher without dying. Another great skill to use is Serenity with the boost on duration, makes you immune for a little bit which is fucking awesome, and the cooldown is pretty fast. That paired with cyclone kick to give you knockback + enchantress and mystic ally with a health boost.
 
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Quote (smoked @ Mon - Jun 18 2012 - 23:37:05)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Mon - Jun 18 2012 - 22:13:33)
I think my monk is now rolling in like a min of 15m worth of gear and getting stomped. Wonder how the nerf will affect players in 1.03


How is that even possible


Res must be too low, and I think my playstyle is too much "HULK SMASH" for Act2.

Going to probably rebuild skills, and try and get res up to 850 all (592 atm).

I just hate how I ROFLSTOMP act 1 but Act 2 laughs at me.
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