went to the capitol yesterday, bunch of bums and dirty hippies rofl

my reply:
they fight for you even if you hate them

factual

you have to admit the move walker and the repubs just pulled that found a way to ruin the unions without any discussion was clever, and as immoral as possible

i think police and firefighters should be included
or at least teachers excluded

can we all just agree that teachers dont deserve to be fucked over?

it was stupid

one thing is for sure though
walker will never get elected to anything ever again

keep us updated

they are clearly fucked over in wisconsin, they are treated very well, even after this bill goes through

they are just the hugest sack of whiny shits on the planet. you have a bachelors, you make 60 grand and have awesome benefits, fuck you

bums just randomly started squatting out of nowhere.

fact: wis average teachers is around the norm
fact: wis has well above average public schooling
fact: pensions are dumb, a guaranteed rate of return is wrong in todays world
fact: take away collective bargaining and we are back to the 1800s

fact: give 150 mil in tax breaks to big business
fact: need 150 mil from teachers to pay for tax breaks

koch bros > america

wanna help the economy?
help small businesses. 70% of our gdp is from consumers. thats us. jewing a teacher out of 3 grand a year is clearly a viable solution. helping wealth move upward is clearly going to help that 70% of our gdp. trickle-down dont work in todays economy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5kHACjrdEY

you wont watch that

moral of the story: one election period with unlimited corporate advertising = more than the last 20 years combined

i agree

how come no one talks about the proposed medicaid cuts lol

people care so god damn much about teachers and unions they forgot the poor are getting slammed

god liberals are so pathetic

The herp is strong with this one. I'll let the personal jab go, and while I don't wqnt to label myself as any single group, I will say I'm proud to clearly be an ignorant conservative who thinks letting the filthy rich have more money somehow helps my life out.

Will respond to your tolling more later.

More money and increasing teacher pay isn't going to solve any educational problems.

We been pouring money into public education for the last 20-30 years and nothing has changed.

The system and administration is fucked up. It isn't about teaching and educating kids.

The whole system is based off getting higher test scores so states can get more funding.

Part of the fucking problem is everything is so centralized.

we need to reduce the population, if we take money away from the poor they will eventually die off leaving only the rich and prosperous (who are smart and have science degrees)

fuck the rich, fuck the poor

hooray mediocrity

i believe any society should be build on principals of meritocracy: if you deserve it then yes sure you got to receive biggest piece of cake, but is you are lazy bastard or just worthless piece of shit then tell me why should society carry you on her neck though your miserable life
due to same argument: "old money" should be eliminated if they can't prove their worth to themselves and society
nn lazy money bags and apathetic playboys

how come no one talks about why we need these cuts, to fund for the tax breaks for big business

ill tell you why
we pick the most shocking aspect of something and run with it because america = pathetic and shock value is everything

and conservatives have all the answers

realistically, republicans = tax breaks for the rich and democrats = letting the rich add favorable regulation with the populace under the impression its going to help us

the medicaid tax breaks are to cut medicaid from people who dont deserve it: people who wont work more than part time because then it means they wont be covered by medicaid, people who are driving a lexus and sporting fur coats, etc

so your argument is "who cares, the system is broke so who cares if the people at the bottom of the food chain get a few grand a year less. the administration aint taking a cut. just the people that we depend on to educate/parent our children for 7 hours a day.

>teachers mean more to society than a future drug salesman working for pfizer

ohh, middle class
nah brah, they taking that away too. ironically its the surviving middle class voting for people who push legislation that protects the very corporations that will swallow your soul the minute they can make a buck for their shareholders.

while i agree, clearly really valid in this context. this aint about the lazy or poor. this is about states taking the easiest path to recoup some money after giving some to big business. the only thing these states are right about is pensions. there should be no such thing as a guaranteed rate of return on your retirement. plus this pension fund only makes greedy politicians mouths water at the thought of shaving off the top for their own special interests.

but the collective bargaining aspect is ridiculous, and the leaving out of that the firemen and policemen is absurd. instead of addressing a corrupt system we just pick and choose who should give back to pay for our politicians paying back those who got them elected. the american way.

could you repeat that in a manner that i can understand what exactly is being taken away for why? also, typical america politics. lets group multiple things together that each deserve their own platform but that would require our elected officials to work, like 12 months a year. you know, earn their pay etc.

also, for you to say those who dont deserve it is sorta lol imo. if health care wasnt so fucked maybe those that "dont deserve it" wouldnt be a burden because it wouldnt be 20k just to have a baby. what if you could call around to multiple hospitals for prices.

nah, viva insurance companies

Nah, I kind of veered off course from what you are talking about.

didnt read [etc]

it still does clearly change the fact we greatly undervalue teachers (because lets face it, no one goes into teaching for the cash) while we overvalue things like future drug salesmen for pfizer

same

I HATE BEING TOLD TO INVEST IN MY OWN FUTURE

the logical difference is we were taught to do so because we have known social security is a fraud since the 90s
they did clearly know this in the 70s when american production was the heart and soul of the world

now im clearly saying its right, but its fact
and nice total dodge of the topic

wait, this is a politics toilet too?

spoiler

they're all politics toilets

ps

i typed out toilets

why does blind_chief care so much. he's clearly a teacher or anyone important. none of this shit affects him at all. i think he just likes finding stuff to bitch about because no beer.

keep getting brainwashed by youtube videos man