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Do You Believe Barack Obama Was Born Here?
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#793192 | Wed - Apr 27 2011 - 20:32:53
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Question of the day
 
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please explain
 
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if you vote no, you are an idiot.
 
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saw this from the forum list and instantly assumed dale or evan pooped the original topic
 
#793196 | Wed - Apr 27 2011 - 20:38:54
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do you care?

nope
 
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#793200 | Wed - Apr 27 2011 - 20:43:12
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Its fake
 
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Its fake


how dare
 
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Yeah, it's all a huge international conspiracy to attack the US and sympathize with Radical Muslim cause.

Let me go put on my tin foil hat real quick.

I'm going to play video games on election day and jack off.

Get at me.
 
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Quote (Zodijackyl @ Wed - Apr 27 2011 - 18:33:16)
if you vote no, you are an idiot.


 
#793210 | Wed - Apr 27 2011 - 21:14:01
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viva la mausoleum brotherhood
 
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if by here you mean present day where garden of eden is...where ppkpkppk and his towel head friends lay their heads

then yes, yes i do
 
#793215 | Wed - Apr 27 2011 - 21:43:02
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i dont understand how america would let somebody with inferior mental capability run a country. would you sit comfortably aside if an orangutan was driving your car with you in it?
i think clearly.
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Wed - Apr 27 2011 - 19:43:02)
i dont understand how america would let somebody with inferior mental capability run a country.  would you sit comfortably aside if an orangutan was driving your car with you in it?
i think clearly.


1/10
 
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i dont understand how america would let somebody with inferior mental capability run a country.  would you sit comfortably aside if an orangutan was driving your car with you in it?
i think clearly.


Kids mad his rich parents couldn't get him into harvard.
 
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THE PROOF ITS FAKE : the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children's Hospital. According to the web site the name didn't change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children's Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn't created until 1978.thats the 100% proof, why obamas paper is fake!
 
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I probably should clearly argue this on a forum full of white people. (It's pointless)
Don't matter what president is what, you people will never be happy...
It's sad really, no one does for their country anymore, they just sit on there fat asses and bitch about it.
 
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Their*
 
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THE PROOF ITS FAKE : the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children's Hospital. According to the web site the name didn't change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children's Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn't created until 1978.thats the 100% proof, why obamas paper is fake!


ignorant/10
 
#793257 | Thu - Apr 28 2011 - 07:01:39
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Quote (7_Deadly_Sins @ Thu - Apr 28 2011 - 00:48:34)


endless conspiracy theorist tells truth!
and i believe him!

chins/10
 
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i think donald trump should be president
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Thu - Apr 28 2011 - 08:19:47)
i think donald trump should be president


jon stewart
 
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I don't care
 
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Quote (Sgull @ Thu - Apr 28 2011 - 17:30:04)
I don't care


 
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Quote (7_Deadly_Sins @ Thu - Apr 28 2011 - 02:48:34)


how 'bout them lizard people?
 
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I don't care


 
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I don't care


 
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if foreigner could be a president, then i wish a first one would be schwarz :euh:
 
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endless conspiracy theorist tells truth!
and i believe him!

chins/10


keep on being a sheep
 
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how 'bout them lizard people?


Avoiding the issue/10
 
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endless conspiracy theorist tells truth!
and i believe him!

chins/10


keep on being a sheep


i used to clearly think you were a moron
those were good times
 
#793293 | Thu - Apr 28 2011 - 13:00:12
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anyone who honestly believes obama was clearly born in the US is clearly worth the conversation to try to convince them over wise (which couldn't be done anyway since they are certain they know this shit and you are just a sheep)
 
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endless conspiracy theorist tells truth!
and i believe him!

chins/10


keep on being a sheep


i used to clearly think you were a moron
those were good times


Its clearly about the Birth Certificate, it never has been. Its a ploy used to distract you from where the real problem lies. Its all about where his father was born. In the Law of Nations book 1 chapter 19 section 212 under citizens and natives it states that in order to be a Natural Born Citizen both of your parents must be born in the country and be citizens at the time of birth. In the constitution article 2 section 1 clause 5 it clearly states that you must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Research
 
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IKR.
Joe needs to calm down
 
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I don't care


 
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Quote (MalcolmSex @ Thu - Apr 28 2011 - 06:53:22)
I probably should clearly argue this on a forum full of white people. (It's pointless)
Don't matter what president is what, you people will never be happy...
It's sad really, no one does for their country anymore, they just sit on there fat asses and bitch about it.


agree
 
#793303 | Thu - Apr 28 2011 - 14:35:30
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endless conspiracy theorist tells truth!
and i believe him!

chins/10


keep on being a sheep


i used to clearly think you were a moron
those were good times


Its clearly about the Birth Certificate, it never has been. Its a ploy used to distract you from where the real problem lies. Its all about where his father was born. In the Law of Nations book 1 chapter 19 section 212 under citizens and natives it states that in order to be a Natural Born Citizen both of your parents must be born in the country and be citizens at the time of birth. In the constitution article 2 section 1 clause 5 it clearly states that you must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Research


terrible use of the powers of deduction, or rather "i heard this on the radio once".
the law of nations was a book written by a swede 20 years before our independance. our constitution never directly defined "natural born citizen", it wasnt until the 14th amendment that it was more clearly defined, which has since been addressed more clearly in future cases. One example is barry goldwater who ran for the presidency in 1964, he was born in the arizona territory. clearly a state at the time, it was found he could run.

dred scott v sandford, 1857
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The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language "a natural-born citizen". It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in the history of this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred Citizenship to the place of birth. At the Declaration of Independence, and ever since, the received general doctrine has been, in conformity with the common law, that free persons born within either of the colonies, were the subjects of the King; that by the Declaration of independence, and the consequent acquisition of sovereignty by the several States, all such persons ceased to be subjects, and became citizens of the several States, [...] .
The Constitution having recognized that persons born within the several States are citizens of the United States, one of four things must be true:
  First. That the constitution itself has described what native-born persons shall or shall clearly be citizens of such State, and thereby be citizens of the United States; or,
  Second:. That it has empowered Congress to do so; or,
  Third. That all free persons, born within the several States, are citizens of the United States; or,
  Fourth. That it is left to each State to determine what free persons, born within its limits, shall be citizens of such State, and thereby be citizens of the United States.
If there is such a thing as Citizenship of the United States acquired by birth within the States, which the Constitution expressly recognizes, and no one denies, then those four alternatives embrace the entire subject, and it only remains to select that one which is true.
[...]
The answer is obvious. The Constitution has left to the States the determination what person, born within their respective limits, shall acquire by birth citizenship of the United States;


you would have a better case is you said he lost his citizenship when his mother moved to indonesia, but thats been tried and lost so basically you have no case. in closing, you are an idiot if you actually believe your natural law case.
 
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endless conspiracy theorist tells truth!
and i believe him!

chins/10


keep on being a sheep


i used to clearly think you were a moron
those were good times


Its clearly about the Birth Certificate, it never has been. Its a ploy used to distract you from where the real problem lies. Its all about where his father was born. In the Law of Nations book 1 chapter 19 section 212 under citizens and natives it states that in order to be a Natural Born Citizen both of your parents must be born in the country and be citizens at the time of birth. In the constitution article 2 section 1 clause 5 it clearly states that you must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Research


terrible use of the powers of deduction, or rather "i heard this on the radio once".
the law of nations was a book written by a swede 20 years before our independance. our constitution never directly defined "natural born citizen", it wasnt until the 14th amendment that it was more clearly defined, which has since been addressed more clearly in future cases. One example is barry goldwater who ran for the presidency in 1964, he was born in the arizona territory. clearly a state at the time, it was found he could run.

dred scott v sandford, 1857
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The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language "a natural-born citizen". It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in the history of this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred Citizenship to the place of birth. At the Declaration of Independence, and ever since, the received general doctrine has been, in conformity with the common law, that free persons born within either of the colonies, were the subjects of the King; that by the Declaration of independence, and the consequent acquisition of sovereignty by the several States, all such persons ceased to be subjects, and became citizens of the several States, [...] .
The Constitution having recognized that persons born within the several States are citizens of the United States, one of four things must be true:
  First. That the constitution itself has described what native-born persons shall or shall clearly be citizens of such State, and thereby be citizens of the United States; or,
  Second:. That it has empowered Congress to do so; or,
  Third. That all free persons, born within the several States, are citizens of the United States; or,
  Fourth. That it is left to each State to determine what free persons, born within its limits, shall be citizens of such State, and thereby be citizens of the United States.
If there is such a thing as Citizenship of the United States acquired by birth within the States, which the Constitution expressly recognizes, and no one denies, then those four alternatives embrace the entire subject, and it only remains to select that one which is true.
[...]
The answer is obvious. The Constitution has left to the States the determination what person, born within their respective limits, shall acquire by birth citizenship of the United States;


you would have a better case is you said he lost his citizenship when his mother moved to indonesia, but thats been tried and lost so basically you have no case. in closing, you are an idiot if you actually believe your natural law case.


the fact is, we are all conditioned to believe that everything we perceive is normal. money is normal, working for money is normal, there is no such thing as free energy, you must pay for 'utilities' AKA dirty energy, otherwise we wouldn't need a monetary system, ect. this is why "druggies" are considered "weird." because they don't look at the world in one narrow minded way; they are well adjusted to a profoundly sick society and have come to the abrupt realization of such. clearly saying that the whole entire human race should be lazy, but were advanced enough to the point where we can use technology to do the majority of the work. society needs to be disassembled, and re-assembled; there is no other way because we are that profoundly ignorant.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Born_Citizen_Clause

there, just go read the actual supreme court rulings yourself, the links to the actual documents written by the judges can be found.
 
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on a serious non racial note,
i dont care who it is as long as they fix our countries problems
 
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low key im clearly surprised at all that chins is a believer
 
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Being a natural born citizen is kind of bullshit anyways.

It should just be a citizen of the united states for 20+ years. And to have office, you must go through background checks.
 
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last nights daily show on this was hilolarious
 
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endless conspiracy theorist tells truth!
and i believe him!

chins/10


keep on being a sheep


i used to clearly think you were a moron
those were good times


Its clearly about the Birth Certificate, it never has been. Its a ploy used to distract you from where the real problem lies. Its all about where his father was born. In the Law of Nations book 1 chapter 19 section 212 under citizens and natives it states that in order to be a Natural Born Citizen both of your parents must be born in the country and be citizens at the time of birth. In the constitution article 2 section 1 clause 5 it clearly states that you must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Research


terrible use of the powers of deduction, or rather "i heard this on the radio once".
the law of nations was a book written by a swede 20 years before our independance. our constitution never directly defined "natural born citizen", it wasnt until the 14th amendment that it was more clearly defined, which has since been addressed more clearly in future cases. One example is barry goldwater who ran for the presidency in 1964, he was born in the arizona territory. clearly a state at the time, it was found he could run.

dred scott v sandford, 1857
Quote
The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language "a natural-born citizen". It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in the history of this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred Citizenship to the place of birth. At the Declaration of Independence, and ever since, the received general doctrine has been, in conformity with the common law, that free persons born within either of the colonies, were the subjects of the King; that by the Declaration of independence, and the consequent acquisition of sovereignty by the several States, all such persons ceased to be subjects, and became citizens of the several States, [...] .
The Constitution having recognized that persons born within the several States are citizens of the United States, one of four things must be true:
  First. That the constitution itself has described what native-born persons shall or shall clearly be citizens of such State, and thereby be citizens of the United States; or,
  Second:. That it has empowered Congress to do so; or,
  Third. That all free persons, born within the several States, are citizens of the United States; or,
  Fourth. That it is left to each State to determine what free persons, born within its limits, shall be citizens of such State, and thereby be citizens of the United States.
If there is such a thing as Citizenship of the United States acquired by birth within the States, which the Constitution expressly recognizes, and no one denies, then those four alternatives embrace the entire subject, and it only remains to select that one which is true.
[...]
The answer is obvious. The Constitution has left to the States the determination what person, born within their respective limits, shall acquire by birth citizenship of the United States;


you would have a better case is you said he lost his citizenship when his mother moved to indonesia, but thats been tried and lost so basically you have no case. in closing, you are an idiot if you actually believe your natural law case.


the fact is, we are all conditioned to believe that everything we perceive is normal. money is normal, working for money is normal, there is no such thing as free energy, you must pay for 'utilities' AKA dirty energy, otherwise we wouldn't need a monetary system, ect. this is why "druggies" are considered "weird." because they don't look at the world in one narrow minded way; they are well adjusted to a profoundly sick society and have come to the abrupt realization of such. clearly saying that the whole entire human race should be lazy, but were advanced enough to the point where we can use technology to do the majority of the work. society needs to be disassembled, and re-assembled; there is no other way because we are that profoundly ignorant.


deflection answer from previous opinion based on unsound "facts"
 
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your opinion is joe
 
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low key im clearly surprised at all that chins is a believer


 
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i saw that unedited
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