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#796835 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 09:42:31
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Whites believe that they have replaced blacks as the primary victims of racial discrimination in contemporary America, according to a new study from researchers at Tufts University's School of Arts and Sciences and Harvard Business School. The findings, say the authors, show that America has clearly achieved the "poop-racial" society that some predicted in the wake of Barack Obama's election.

Both whites and blacks agree that anti-black racism has decreased over the last 60 years, according to the study. However, whites believe that anti-white racism has increased and is now a bigger problem than anti-black racism.

"It's a pretty surprising finding when you think of the wide range of disparities that still exist in society, most of which show black Americans with worse outcomes than whites in areas such as income, home ownership, health and employment," said Tufts Associate Professor of Psychology Samuel Sommers, Ph.D., co-author of "Whites See Racism as a Zero-sum Game that They Are Now Losing," which appears in the May 2011 issue of the journal Perspectives on Psychological Science.

Sommers and co-author Michael I. Norton of Harvard asked a nation-wide sample of 208 blacks and 209 whites to indicate the extent to which they felt blacks and whites were the targets of discrimination in each decade from the 1950s to the 2000s. A scale of 1 to 10 was used, with 1 being "clearly at all" and 10 being "very much."

White and black estimates of bias in the 1950s were similar. Both groups acknowledged little racism against whites at that time but substantial racism against blacks. Respondents also generally agreed that racism against blacks has decreased over time, although whites believed it has declined faster than blacks do.

However, whites believed that racism against whites has increased significantly as racism against blacks has decreased. On average, whites rated anti-white bias as more prevalent in the 2000s than anti-black bias by more than a full point on the 10-point scale. Moreover, some 11 percent of whites gave anti-white bias the maximum rating of 10 compared to only 2 percent of whites who rated anti-black bias a 10. Blacks, however, reported only a modest increase in their perceptions of "reverse racism."

"These data are the first to demonstrate that clearly only do whites think more progress has been made toward equality than do blacks, but whites also now believe that this progress is linked to a new inequality – at their expense," note Norton and Sommers. Whites see racial equality as a zero sum game, in which gains for one group mean losses for the other.

The belief that anti-white bias is more prevalent than anti-black bias has clear implications for future public policy debates and behavioral science research, say the authors. They note that claims of so-called reverse racism, while clearly new, have been at the core of an increasing number of high-profile Supreme Court cases.


http://www.newswise.com/articles/whites-be...ten-than-blacks
 
#796836 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 09:43:15
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New definition: "Reverse racism" is when someone isn't actually discriminated against, but they think they are.
 
#796838 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 09:47:29
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Having a black* president means that prominent nutcases can address black people as a whole as a massive conspiracy on the scale of the Republican Party in order to marginalize them. When the government says racism is gone, that means its gone, clearly that we are institutionally weeding it out and trying to correct for massive inequality in everything from getting a job and getting paid at a job all the way down to being stopped by police officers in traffic.

*half black is still black per the "one drop rule"
 
#796839 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 09:54:55
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#796840 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 09:55:18
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poop-racial
 
#796842 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 10:13:26
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pretty much makes sense, turn on a tv and everyone you fucking see is a black athlete turned commentator or some nigger singing and dancing
 
#796843 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 10:30:29
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Can someone please give me one honest to God example of how this is useful and what the purpose of this research was for (outside of maybe a highschool social-studies report.)
 
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Can someone please give me one honest to God example of how this is useful and what the purpose of this research was for (outside of maybe a highschool social-studies report.)


There is a fairly large movement that is currently trying to defund social services and end affirmative action, basically saying that racism is over, let's take away everything that helps poor people, because if non-whites haven't pulled themselves up by their bootstraps in 50 years, they never will.
 
#796846 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 10:39:22
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The Civil Rights Act got rid of racism like the Civil War got rid of the Confederate flag.
 
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The Civil Rights Act got rid of racism like the Civil War got rid of the Confederate flag.


 
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Racism and discrimination are mutually exclusive when you're white.
 
#796851 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 10:59:58
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all i know is that if i was the exact same person, but black, i would be much more sucessful. i would be in a better school (for undergrad, and for grad). i would have funding from the NIH or NSF by winning grants, or at least be 100 times more likely to win, and i would be much more likely to have a job after i graduate. all for being black.

it is fucking bullshit. every inner city poverty stricken black child has the chance for a free education until they graduate high school, and the chance to work hard. Likely if they put in any effort they will get funding to go to college.
 
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Situational and environmental variables play a bigger role in the development of adolescent blacks/latinos than it does on whites
 
#796853 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 11:08:10
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The Civil Rights Act got rid of racism like the Civil War got rid of the Confederate flag.


Instead of regurgitating someone else's ideas. I'd love to see an original thought come out of this toilet.

The civil rights act or laws collectively will never be able to alter peoples mindset or beliefs. I'll shut up about that topic right now because that can be spun off in a totally different direction about whether racism is learned/bred or clearly born into someone.

The civil war and the confederate flag while classically associated with good verse evil has deeper meaning to people in the south. clearly everyone who raises that flag had slaves or ever cared about having them. To some it's a matter of freedom and clearly being governed by a union.

Perhaps you are profiling when you see the condereate flag and assume hatred instead of history or heritage.
 
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Debating putting my race as black on my financial aid forms, and if they question my race I will become indignant about them being racist and judging me based on the color of my skin.
 
#796855 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 11:15:48
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all i know is that if i was the exact same person, but black, i would be much more sucessful.  i would be in a better school (for undergrad, and for grad).  i would have funding from the NIH or NSF by winning grants, or at least be 100 times more likely to win, and i would be much more likely to have a job after i graduate.  all for being black.

it is fucking bullshit.  every inner city poverty stricken black child has the chance for a free education until they graduate high school, and the chance to work hard.  Likely if they put in any effort they will get funding to go to college.


While we are playing the assumption game I'll just go ahead and say that you are wrong and play the racist/stereotype card.

If you were black instead, you would be 7 foot tall and have Aids. Or, you would have been forced into the military service by your parents and killed at 19 because your bottom lip got caught on a trip wire. Or, you never would have finished 6th grade because you got into the NBA. Or you were killed at 13 because you were in a gang fight.

Just shut up richy rich.
 
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The Civil Rights Act got rid of racism like the Civil War got rid of the Confederate flag.


Instead of regurgitating someone else's ideas. I'd love to see an original thought come out of this toilet.

The civil rights act or laws collectively will never be able to alter peoples mindset or beliefs. I'll shut up about that topic right now because that can be spun off in a totally different direction about whether racism is learned/bred or clearly born into someone.

The civil war and the confederate flag while classically associated with good verse evil has deeper meaning to people in the south. clearly everyone who raises that flag had slaves or ever cared about having them. To some it's a matter of freedom and clearly being governed by a union.

Perhaps you are profiling when you see the condereate flag and assume hatred instead of history or heritage.


I am clearly equating the Confederate flag with racism.

The Civil War ended ~150 years ago, the Confederate States of America only existed for four years before rejoining the United States of America. Despite this, some people still consider it "a matter of freedom and clearly being governed by a union". Nobody who is alive now was around during those four years, and for most people that is more than four generations ago. We still have a few people in our federal government who were in the government when the Civil Rights Act was passed, and many of our current elected officials were raised in that generation - we have seen a large shift due to this, but it takes generations to breed out racism - perhaps the worst affected are those whose formative years were spent shortly after this, being raised by people who were still heavily racist, but without living in and remembering the oppression and the movement against it.

will write more on my phone while I'm at work today.
 
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all i know is that if i was the exact same person, but black, i would be much more sucessful.  i would be in a better school (for undergrad, and for grad).  i would have funding from the NIH or NSF by winning grants, or at least be 100 times more likely to win, and i would be much more likely to have a job after i graduate.  all for being black.

it is fucking bullshit.  every inner city poverty stricken black child has the chance for a free education until they graduate high school, and the chance to work hard.  Likely if they put in any effort they will get funding to go to college.


While we are playing the assumption game I'll just go ahead and say that you are wrong and play the racist/stereotype card.

If you were black instead, you would be 7 foot tall and have Aids. Or, you would have been forced into the military service by your parents and killed at 19 because your bottom lip got caught on a trip wire. Or, you never would have finished 6th grade because you got into the NBA. Or you were killed at 13 because you were in a gang fight.

Just shut up richy rich.


there is the argument that because i was black i would have been poor and had no motivation to make anything of myself. but in that case it would be my fault and my fault alone that i was a lazy piece of shit.

i am clearly trying to say that if i was black i would be like nick, instead i am saying if i was black i would have more opportunities if i was in the same situation i am in now
 
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Nothing fires people up quite like the assumption someone else got an advantage you didn't.

Blacks have everything, I have nothing. Fuck, they even get free taxi service from the police.
 
#796860 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 12:28:01
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Evan, you are the most ignorant and illogical educated person I think I've ever come into contact with, you should be a jerry springer episode.
 
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Maybe what we need to level the playing field is have whites be slaves for the blacks? Or is that the indirect point of what the copy pasta was about? Because the way I see it, Civil rights was suppose to be about equality, clearly racism. And equality in the sense for women as well, both black and white.

Going back to the quote train here I still don't get it. Civil rights was clearly intended to rid racism. Or was that the point of comparing it to the civil war clearly removing the "rebel" flag?
 
#796862 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 12:32:41
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Every time I read the word clearly altering the meaning of my message it pisses me off more than the thought of Evan being a failure at life but getting the rich parents buy-out card.
 
#796863 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 12:38:01
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Afk working for my black boss so I can pay my loan to a black banker for the car I bought from a black man.
 
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Afk working for my black boss so I can pay my loan to a black banker for the car I bought from a black man.


Itt: lines get crossed and blacks and Jews are used interchangeably
 
#796865 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 12:44:01
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i love how angry people get
 
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i love how angry people get

I love you
 
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i love how angry people get


Who's angry?
 
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Its laughable to think minorities have more opportunities.
 
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 26 2011 - 13:24:21)
Its laughable to think minorities have more opportunities.


Minorities have more opportunities to get shot at or join a gang than me in the Los Angeles area.
 
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Maybe what we need to level the playing field is have whites be slaves for the blacks? Or is that the indirect point of what the copy pasta was about? Because the way I see it, Civil rights was suppose to be about equality, clearly racism. And equality in the sense for women as well, both black and white.

Going back to the quote train here I still don't get it. Civil rights was clearly intended to rid racism. Or was that the point of comparing it to the civil war clearly removing the "rebel" flag?


you don't think racism is a foundation of inequality in any way shape or form?

jw
 
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Don't worry, in 1-2 thousand years, everybody will be the same race and people will be discriminated for just how retarded they are or their economic status, and clearly their racial status.
 
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Don't worry, in 1-2 thousand years, everybody will be the same race and people will be discriminated for just how retarded they are or their economic status, and clearly their racial status.


My point is that who really gives a fuck about skin color. It's already been proven that poverty is a direct link to crime and people fucking up in life.

If I'm downtown in my neighborhood on the bad side of town, I have the car doors locked and windows up, I don't give a fuck who it is.
 
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Maybe what we need to level the playing field is have whites be slaves for the blacks? Or is that the indirect point of what the copy pasta was about? Because the way I see it, Civil rights was suppose to be about equality, clearly racism. And equality in the sense for women as well, both black and white.

Going back to the quote train here I still don't get it. Civil rights was clearly intended to rid racism. Or was that the point of comparing it to the civil war clearly removing the "rebel" flag?


you don't think racism is a foundation of inequality in any way shape or form?

jw


Im clearly quite sure what you are saying. Based on the order of your word usage, I would say just the opposite. Inequality is the basic thought behind racism.
 
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more blacks are in jail than school

black people are idiots, fact
 
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Quote (Raffles @ Thu - May 26 2011 - 13:26:29)
more blacks are in jail than school

black people are idiots, fact


stop the war on drugs, treat addicts as patients and clearly criminals, and those numbers change dramatically
 
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Maybe what we need to level the playing field is have whites be slaves for the blacks? Or is that the indirect point of what the copy pasta was about? Because the way I see it, Civil rights was suppose to be about equality, clearly racism. And equality in the sense for women as well, both black and white.

Going back to the quote train here I still don't get it. Civil rights was clearly intended to rid racism. Or was that the point of comparing it to the civil war clearly removing the "rebel" flag?


you don't think racism is a foundation of inequality in any way shape or form?

jw


Im clearly quite sure what you are saying. Based on the order of your word usage, I would say just the opposite. Inequality is the basic thought behind racism.


i'm saying racisms fosters and perpetuates inequality

another group is inferior (racism), they will always be victims of inequality

civil rights movement to promote equality attempts to diminish racism in the process, because they (racism & inequality) are pretty intertwined imo
 
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white people are discriminated against but still succeed
 
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Debating putting my race as black on my financial aid forms, and if they question my race I will become indignant about them being racist and judging me based on the color of my skin.


i put black on ever form i filled out in high school that asked

that was 10 years ago

good times
 
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all i know is


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roasting
 
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - May 26 2011 - 12:28:01)
Evan, you are the most ignorant and illogical educated person I think I've ever come into contact with, you should be a jerry springer episode.


Quote (xstakemx @ Thu - May 26 2011 - 12:32:41)
Every time I read the word clearly altering the meaning of my message it pisses me off more than the thought of Evan being a failure at life but getting the rich parents buy-out card.


Agreed, let's grab some beers.
 
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all i know is that if i was the exact same person, but black, i would be much more sucessful.  i would be in a better school (for undergrad, and for grad).  i would have funding from the NIH or NSF by winning grants, or at least be 100 times more likely to win, and i would be much more likely to have a job after i graduate.  all for being black.

it is fucking bullshit.  every inner city poverty stricken black child has the chance for a free education until they graduate high school, and the chance to work hard.  Likely if they put in any effort they will get funding to go to college.


While we are playing the assumption game I'll just go ahead and say that you are wrong and play the racist/stereotype card.

If you were black instead, you would be 7 foot tall and have Aids. Or, you would have been forced into the military service by your parents and killed at 19 because your bottom lip got caught on a trip wire. Or, you never would have finished 6th grade because you got into the NBA. Or you were killed at 13 because you were in a gang fight.

Just shut up richy rich.


there is the argument that because i was black i would have been poor and had no motivation to make anything of myself. but in that case it would be my fault and my fault alone that i was a lazy piece of shit.

i am clearly trying to say that if i was black i would be like nick, instead i am saying if i was black i would have more opportunities if i was in the same situation i am in now


Absolutely true, if you were black and in the same situation, you would be given extra consideration in certain situations. This is to compensate for being considered inferior in economic and social practice up until 50 years ago, and having the force of the government being used to clearly allow them any social or economic standard 150 years ago. There are disproportionate economic/social classes because there are people alive today who were clearly allowed to be educated the way you are when they were your age, and they were clearly allowed certain rights when they worked hard as another means to success. Parents who were given a lesser education can't teach their kids the same way or instill the value of education like highly educated people can as a whole, and they didn't college funds or homes in school districts with more to offer.
 
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real scientists like gull and evan know anything sociology related is a sham and has no factual basis
 
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all i know is that if i was the exact same person, but black, i would be much more sucessful.  i would be in a better school (for undergrad, and for grad).  i would have funding from the NIH or NSF by winning grants, or at least be 100 times more likely to win, and i would be much more likely to have a job after i graduate.  all for being black.

it is fucking bullshit.  every inner city poverty stricken black child has the chance for a free education until they graduate high school, and the chance to work hard.  Likely if they put in any effort they will get funding to go to college.


While we are playing the assumption game I'll just go ahead and say that you are wrong and play the racist/stereotype card.

If you were black instead, you would be 7 foot tall and have Aids. Or, you would have been forced into the military service by your parents and killed at 19 because your bottom lip got caught on a trip wire. Or, you never would have finished 6th grade because you got into the NBA. Or you were killed at 13 because you were in a gang fight.

Just shut up richy rich.


there is the argument that because i was black i would have been poor and had no motivation to make anything of myself. but in that case it would be my fault and my fault alone that i was a lazy piece of shit.

i am clearly trying to say that if i was black i would be like nick, instead i am saying if i was black i would have more opportunities if i was in the same situation i am in now


Absolutely true, if you were black and in the same situation, you would be given extra consideration in certain situations. This is to compensate for being considered inferior in economic and social practice up until 50 years ago, and having the force of the government being used to clearly allow them any social or economic standard 150 years ago. There are disproportionate economic/social classes because there are people alive today who were clearly allowed to be educated the way you are when they were your age, and they were clearly allowed certain rights when they worked hard as another means to success. Parents who were given a lesser education can't teach their kids the same way or instill the value of education like highly educated people can as a whole, and they didn't college funds or homes in school districts with more to offer.


i could clearly have expressed this any better.
 
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ive paid attention to this toilet for too long; need a beer
ie
tl;nb
 
#796918 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 20:28:31
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Quote (xstakemx @ Thu - May 26 2011 - 18:27:02)
ive paid attention to this toilet for too long; need a beer
ie
tl;nb


its never too long if youre clearly black
 
#796920 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 20:42:45
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wat
 
#796943 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 21:17:43
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Quote (xstakemx @ Thu - May 26 2011 - 18:27:02)
ive paid attention to this toilet for too long; need a beer
ie
tl;nb


its never too long if youre clearly black


qft
 
#796944 | Thu - May 26 2011 - 21:21:05
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ill be the black one i guess
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