DesolateCarnage.net
Members | Search
Desolate Carnage
Hey Guest
Options Menu
DC Forums → General Archive → Vermont Raises Standard Of Living
 
Vermont Raises Standard Of Living
Archived | Views: 1495 | Replies: 19 | Started 13 years, 7 months ago
 
#797114 | Fri - May 27 2011 - 20:57:13
Zodijackyl*
Group: Members
Posts: 32,34230k
Joined: May 31 2007
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 3,155.70
Quote
For the first time, health care in Vermont will be considered a public good rather than a commodity to be sold.

“We’re going to hear all kinds of scare stories – that this is a thoughtless experiment or that this is too bold. I want to remind you that every other industrialized country does what we are trying to do. They do it for far less money, they live longer and they do it for far better care. So it’s time for Vermont to join the rest of the industrialized world.”


http://vtdigger.org/2011/05/27/shumlin-sig...nto-law/?rc=fbp

Quote
Richter thanked Shumlin who made a pledge “if he were elected governor he would make Vermont the first state in the nation to enact a publicly financed system that pays for health care for all Vermonters. How many politicians do you know who really do what they say they’re going to do?”


Answer: that guy, right there.
 
#797117 | Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:08:39
Zodijackyl*
Group: Members
Posts: 32,34230k
Joined: May 31 2007
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 3,155.70
The intermediary in healthcare should clearly profit off of human suffering. To more effectively connect the people to the providers will benefit both ends - guaranteeing healthcare for all consumers, and ensuring more (and better) business for doctors, who will have more people to provide for, and more efficient payment management. Cut out the 15-40% overheard/profit and replace it with less, both sides in each transaction will benefit. Money can be exchanged for goods and services, why did we need to make it more complex than that?
 
#797119 | Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:19:49
Zodijackyl*
Group: Members
Posts: 32,34230k
Joined: May 31 2007
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 3,155.70
Spencer: How do you see this impacting development and production of pharmaceuticals? I think the overhead cost reduction will benefit the consumer, but the increased number of consumers will be able to drive business in production, and extra money going largely to research (and profit). Will this provide a boost for the industry in increased efficiency, more customers, more money all around?

 
#797120 | Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:20:06
blind_chief*
Group: Members
Posts: 74,19840k
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 6,883.75 $ $
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk
discovered the cure to polio, gave it to the world

tell me if you honestly think pfizer would do that
 
#797123 | Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:33:48
blackjack21*
Group: Members
Posts: 13,90610k
Joined: Apr 28 2007
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 3,331.84
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:20:06)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk
discovered the cure to polio, gave it to the world

tell me if you honestly think pfizer would do that


fuck yes they would because they would make a shitton of money
 
#797126 | Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:52:12
blind_chief*
Group: Members
Posts: 74,19840k
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 6,883.75 $ $
Quote (blackjack21 @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 19:33:48)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:20:06)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk
discovered the cure to polio, gave it to the world

tell me if you honestly think pfizer would do that


fuck yes they would because they would make a shitton of money


give to world = clearly making money unless give has changed meaning
 
#797128 | Fri - May 27 2011 - 22:05:48
Du$tin
Group: Guest
Posts: 18,48810k
Joined: Sep 1 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 6,611.60
 
#797136 | Fri - May 27 2011 - 22:47:55
MoS.
Group: Members
Posts: 27,88820k
Joined: Aug 31 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 381.50 $
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:52:12)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 19:33:48)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:20:06)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk
discovered the cure to polio, gave it to the world

tell me if you honestly think pfizer would do that


fuck yes they would because they would make a shitton of money


give to world = clearly making money unless give has changed meaning


 
#797138 | Fri - May 27 2011 - 22:48:31
MoS.
Group: Members
Posts: 27,88820k
Joined: Aug 31 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 381.50 $
Quote (MoS. @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 22:47:55)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:52:12)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 19:33:48)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:20:06)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk
discovered the cure to polio, gave it to the world

tell me if you honestly think pfizer would do that


fuck yes they would because they would make a shitton of money


give to world = clearly making money unless give has changed meaning


this goes in the exact same lines as the canadian research facility that has basically discovered a cure to cancer, several years ago

big drug money companies cant make big drug money off of it when people stop dying
 
#797176 | Sat - May 28 2011 - 09:26:04
Du$tin
Group: Guest
Posts: 18,48810k
Joined: Sep 1 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 6,611.60
Quote (Du$tin @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 23:05:48)
http://forums.desolatecarnage.net/?showtopic=34770&f=10


 
#797204 | Sat - May 28 2011 - 12:31:38
Raffles*
Group: Guest
Posts: 14,41410k
Joined: Oct 2 2007
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 1,162.65
syrup
 
#797216 | Sat - May 28 2011 - 12:59:24
Sgull*
Group: Members
Posts: 60,63040k
Joined: Aug 30 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 75,457.20
Quote (Zodijackyl @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:19:49)
Spencer: How do you see this impacting development and production of pharmaceuticals? I think the overhead cost reduction will benefit the consumer, but the increased number of consumers will be able to drive business in production, and extra money going largely to research (and profit). Will this provide a boost for the industry in increased efficiency, more customers, more money all around?


increase in consumers is increase in patients

so no

fuck free healthcare
 
#797217 | Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:05:30
blind_chief*
Group: Members
Posts: 74,19840k
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 6,883.75 $ $
so whats your solution gull? because the past model of employee provided health care was spiraling out of control. double digit % increases every year is unsustainable. so what is the right answer?
 
#797220 | Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:10:31
Sgull*
Group: Members
Posts: 60,63040k
Joined: Aug 30 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 75,457.20
Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:05:30)
so whats your solution gull?  because the past model of employee provided health care was spiraling out of control.  double digit % increases every year is unsustainable.  so what is the right answer?


offering a solution would imply i read anything pooped
 
#797225 | Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:38:41
blind_chief*
Group: Members
Posts: 74,19840k
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 6,883.75 $ $
Quote (Sgull @ Sat - May 28 2011 - 11:10:31)
Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:05:30)
so whats your solution gull?  because the past model of employee provided health care was spiraling out of control.  double digit % increases every year is unsustainable.  so what is the right answer?


offering a solution would imply i read anything pooped


its easy to criticize everything and avoid talk about a solution
 
#797226 | Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:40:51
Sgull*
Group: Members
Posts: 60,63040k
Joined: Aug 30 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 75,457.20
Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:38:41)
Quote (Sgull @ Sat - May 28 2011 - 11:10:31)
Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:05:30)
so whats your solution gull?  because the past model of employee provided health care was spiraling out of control.  double digit % increases every year is unsustainable.  so what is the right answer?


offering a solution would imply i read anything pooped


its easy to criticize everything and avoid talk about a solution


Liberalism 101
 
#797227 | Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:53:18
blackjack21*
Group: Members
Posts: 13,90610k
Joined: Apr 28 2007
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 3,331.84
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:52:12)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 19:33:48)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:20:06)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk
discovered the cure to polio, gave it to the world

tell me if you honestly think pfizer would do that


fuck yes they would because they would make a shitton of money


give to world = clearly making money unless give has changed meaning


i dont care if pharmeceutical companies make a profit. i have this bias because likely they will employ me
 
#797269 | Sat - May 28 2011 - 23:06:14
MoS.
Group: Members
Posts: 27,88820k
Joined: Aug 31 2006
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 381.50 $
Quote (blackjack21 @ Sat - May 28 2011 - 13:53:18)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:52:12)
Quote (blackjack21 @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 19:33:48)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - May 27 2011 - 21:20:06)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk
discovered the cure to polio, gave it to the world

tell me if you honestly think pfizer would do that


fuck yes they would because they would make a shitton of money


give to world = clearly making money unless give has changed meaning


i dont care if pharmeceutical companies make a profit. i have this bias because likely they will employ me


>i listened to my parents when they told me how to do everything in life and that money was the root of all happiness
 
#797304 | Sun - May 29 2011 - 09:51:42
Raffles*
Group: Guest
Posts: 14,41410k
Joined: Oct 2 2007
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 1,162.65
@mos
why havent you relapsed yet pathetic asshole
 
#797384 | Mon - May 30 2011 - 08:40:22
Zodijackyl*
Group: Members
Posts: 32,34230k
Joined: May 31 2007
Contact: Offline PM
Points: 3,155.70
Quote (Raffles @ Sun - May 29 2011 - 09:51:42)
@mos
why havent you relapsed yet pathetic asshole


the term in regard to assholes is "prolapse" :eng101:
Archived | Views: 1495 | Replies: 19 | General Archive Topic List
 
Quit the Internet
DC Forums powered by ___ and 3rror.org © 2006-2015