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I pretended to be shocked of the events and just had basic information.

:winning:

please dont interview college students for news reports, they are so retarded

i think this is like terrible, he did everything that the board or like, whoever, trustees wanted him to, we study in his library named after him all day!

joe paterno should be coach until the end of time!

lets riot because i found out my idol has a touching program

Anyone have a link to the actual allegations and facts instead of hearsay and news/media drama/exaggerations taken out of context?
No one knows all the facts to form a proper judgement about the guy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15662479

its the huffington poop but its still a basic timeline
http://www.huffingtonpoop.com/2011/11/09/p..._n_1084204.html

This post has been edited by blind_chief on Thu - Nov 10 2011 - 09:37:38

Read the grand jury report

I did and it fully solidifies my original opinion in the matter. Joe pa was told second-hand information and followed through with his obligations to report it to higher authority who (on multiple occasions) dismissed the claims.

Cursory evidence shows he did what he was obligated to do. If I was in the same position, I would have proelbay done the same. He is a busy enough person, I don't think he should be held responsible for clearly dropping all of his life commitments to pursue an undercover operation to find out if second-hand information is accurate.

In my honest opinion he has been wronged due his popularity and public image. There are others who should be held more responsible than him.

I was going to poop something very similar to this, but hearing you say it knowing how you hate penn state football makes it sound more credible.

Now there is a rumor that the kids were being pimped to rich donors, disgusting

lol Penn State the new Thailand

Penn State Scandal: Rumor Claims Sandusky “Pimped Out” Boys to Rich Donors
Zac Wassink

By Zac Wassink, Yahoo! Contributor Network 3 hours, 16 minutes ago

Just when you thought the Penn State child sex-abuse scandal couldn't possibly get any worse, we may have just scratched the surface. Joe Paterno being fired could be just the start of arguably the biggest downfall in the history of college athletics.

Pittsburgh radio personality Mark Madden, who penned a column for the Beaver County Times back in April of this year named "Sandusky a State secret," a column which foreshadowed the recent scandal which has absolutely gutted those of us in the Penn State family, was a guest on the Dennis & Callahan Morning Show on WEEI sports talk radio out of Boston on Thursday morning. During his appearance, Madden, who has been mostly right regarding this issue from the very start, dropped what can only be called a bombshell, an announcement which could mean far more than the end of Joe Paterno's career.

Madden stated that two "prominent columnists" are currently investigating a rumor that Jerry Sandusky's Second Mile Foundation, a non-profit organization aimed to serve underprivileged youths, was "pimping out young boys to rich (Penn State) donors." Madden went on to say that Jerry Sandusky was told by those running the show at Penn State football that Sandusky had to retire after allegations made in 1998 that the defensive coordinator was guilty of "improper conduct with an underage male." Sandusky, thought by some to be Joe Paterno's successor at the time, abruptly and somewhat shockingly retired from coaching in 1999.

It actually gets worse. Madden went on to say "When Sandusky quit, everybody knew; clearly just at Penn State. It was a very poorly kept secret around college football, in general. That is why he never coached in college football again and retired at the relatively young age of 55, young for a coach." Madden also called the Second Mile Foundation "the perfect cover" for Sandusky's scheme.

I want to be absolutely clear about a few things. These reports, as of the writing of this piece, are coming only from Mark Madden, and they are currently only rumors and speculation. With that said, Mark Madden has been mostly correct about a grand jury investigation which was sealed until very recently. I'm clearly suggesting that I 100 percent believe Madden to be correct. I'm certainly clearly ignoring a word he's saying regarding the Sandusky case at this point.

Late Wednesday evening after Joe Paterno was fired by Penn State, an "in the know" individual told me that this story was going to get uglier, and that there were, at the very least, "dozens of more victims." My absolute worst fear regarding the issue is what Mark Madden spoke on Thursday morning. It's been widely reported that the US Department of Education is currently investigating Penn State. Are they going to find that Jerry Sandusky was running a multimillion-dollar criminal organization, one which resulted in dozens, possibly hundreds (or even more), of youths being sexually abused? Will they find that higher-ups at Penn State, including now former football coach Joe Paterno, covered-up Sandusky's heinous crimes? All I know this morning is that, after the worst week of my Penn State life, I don't know if anything would shock me.

no, this is most certainly clearly the way to look at this. when this first happened in 98, everyone at penn st just pushed this under the rug and let him retire. in 98 joepa was the most powerful force at the university, clearly some figurehead who is there for show. sandusky never walks in 98 if clearly for joepa's support behind the scenes. and after all of this joepa still allows this guy to use school facilities. at least 3 instances were made known to joepa who "told his boss". fucking joepa IS the boss. the situation did clearly require super sleuth investigation. it required one man, who had more clout than anyone else, to say to his boss "this aint right, we have to call the cops and let them sort it out".

joepa is clearly the only guilty bystander. everyone who ever saw anything is guilty. a fucking janitor saw sandusky giving a little boy a blow job and told multiple people, all of which did nothing. the fact that these people will only lose their jobs for this is a blessing.

@ stakem, i actually read all of it, what i pooped wasn't "hearsay and news/media drama/exaggerations taken out of context?"

i'm sorry you're apparently as morally bankrupt as joepa and the rest of the penn st administration to clearly realize/accept something was seriously fucking wrong with the entire situation and clearly was clearly handled correctly for over a decade

you know, i had a long drawn out reply to this but it isnt even worth it so i deleted it. no matter what i say, you are going to twist my words with your self-righteous outsider opinion and make me look like an ass for having any sort of creative thought behind understanding the situation

the fact of the matter is too much focus is being placed on one man (joe) instead of the real issue here where people failed as human beings and there is obvious issues at a higher level. joe did what he was required to do. if you want to point fingers and blame at people, how about taking the time to think about clearly only the athletic director, the senior vice present, the district attorney and even the fucking department of public welfare who dismissed the case the first time it was brought up in '98 where joe wasnt even involved

This post has been edited by xstakemx on Fri - Nov 11 2011 - 11:16:01

Adam, you are missing one point. Joe was the boss of Penn st. When things go bad the boss goes down first.

This post has been edited by blind_chief on Fri - Nov 11 2011 - 13:19:21

Also, if joepa is getting all this shit, yet the person who SAW it and did the same exact thing as joepa by reporting it to superiors then leaving it alone is STILL there, and coaching it proves the story was blown up for ratings and views. A no named assistant who saw the shit would clearly get the ratings of joepa.

its true that its wrong that he is still employed by penn st. im certain that wont last given time. but look at this from the institutions point of view. you have to take a strong position up front, which involves firing the heads of the departments that knew and did nothing (telling your boss is doing nothing when your boss does nothing). now, the investigative committee will find out who all knew, and who all did nothing. i imagine they will all be fired.

you cannot make the argument that paterno didnt know, nor can you make the argument that he did all he could. and as the leader of the organization (you cannot make the argument paterno was clearly the most powerful person on campus, especially in 98 when this should have first been handled) you get the first blame to be assigned. thats why the initial focus has been on paterno (along with the fact his entire career had been built on morals and ethics). over time the focus will shift to the others once the committee figures who all knew.

as for mcqueary goes, they are probably keeping him employed for the time being because they need his testimony, or simply because paterno knew he was going down and he covered for mcqueary as much as possible. either way there is no way mcqueary has a job when this is over. if he does then there will be at least one more thing that just aint right with this.

the minimum legal requirement isn't the right thing to do

still waiting for an honest "this is why paterno should clearly have been fired" retort
anyone?

This post has been edited by blind_chief on Fri - Nov 11 2011 - 21:36:26

sandusky interviewed by bob costas
rhythmic "slap slap slapping" sounds

"i was just in the shower with a 10 year old and we were snapping towels at each other. the boy turned on all the showers and was scooting around the floor"

wat

"are you sexually attracted to underage boys?"
"sexually?"
"yes, sexually"
"no. i enjoy being around boys though"

my dad:
any real man who sees shit like that goes and cuts that fuckers nuts off and delivers them to the cops

Mcqueary is a ginger, you cannot know how they think

pray tell!

"are you innocent of all 40 (something) charges?"
"umm, well, ive done things but clearly with a sexual intent. ive hugged them, touched boys legs in the shower, horsing around."

wtf is wrong with this guy, and how could anyone have ever said " hey bro, go ahead and use school showers"

"im going to turn your son from a tight end into a wide receiver"