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#817125 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 20:55:39
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Dont wanna lose this and will be brainstorming for a few months

a Computer build toilet....


so far im thinking based around a i7 2600k
want to have a solid state drive for windows/booting
a fast (velociraptor) 1tb hdd for progs
and a massive 4tb hdd for data
donno yet if i wanna do dual 560ti's or a single 580/590 gpu???
no idea on mobo just dont want a gigbyte im on my third one, after frying 2 others
thinking about a 27 or 32 inch lcd hdtv for monitor
dono about sound etc etc thoughts???

again just startinog thought process here
 
#817126 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 21:17:42
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#817127 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 21:21:26
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#817128 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 21:42:01
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What are you using this computer for?
 
#817130 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 21:52:44
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Regarding sound: I'm guessing you're primarily using it for playback, and maybe Ventrilo, but clearly recording music. It's often difficult to figure out when audio stuff goes from a notable improvement to an imaginary improvement.

To start, you want a sound card that's clearly bottom of the barrel, basically one that doesn't output at 128 kbps. IIRC these start around $20-30, I know the Chaintech AV-710 is discontinued, but it was really cheap and it worked well. Speakers depend on the configuration you want - 2.0/2.1/5.1/7.1, plus what sounds good to you. There are lots of audio companies and products known for being overpriced, and it can be tough to hear reasonably priced speakers before buying them - I don't know speakers that well, but you probably want something with strong bass/mids and solid responsiveness for the type of music you like. Basically the speaker equivalent of Grado SR-40 headphones. You should be able to find a solid set of speakers for 50-100.
 
#817131 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 21:53:13
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no need for further poops, thanks!
 
#817133 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 21:59:10
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One more thing for now, regarding data:

If you don't expect to have 4tb of data really soon, you should be able to find really cheap deals on ~2tb hard drives right now, and as long as your case has space, you can add hard drives as you need them. If you're going for 10k rpm, you might clearly see cheap deals too often, but 7200rpm should be good enough and those are easy to get.
 
#817134 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:09:14
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pls dont buy a 4tb hd over 2 2tbs like stev says
 
#817136 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:11:41
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If you want to go all out buy an av receiver and send everything through that

Buy a cheap set of 5.1s and it will be kickass, nn sound cards
 
#817138 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:16:30
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ya i was under the impression that sound cards have been obsolete for 10 years because modern motherboards handle audio fine

 
#817143 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:27:25
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Quote (randomtask @ Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:16:30)
ya i was under the impression that sound cards have been obsolete for 10 years because modern motherboards handle audio fine


Some do, some don't. A lot of them have the Realtek AC97 integrated, and they compress audio so much that you can notice it, especially with modern metal and hardcore which tend to emphasize lower frequencies while having less-than-recommened headspace. In normal people terms, this means harsh treble and super-farty bass. You really need to shape your audio setup to what you like, since what's good for one thing isn't good for another.

Also, cheap speakers can be really good, they can also be bad. Low end audio stuff is wildly inconsistent and some of the bigger lines even have different stuff in the same packaging (i.e. SkullCandy Ink'd). Budget $100 for speakers and you could go under that, but consider reviews from people who listen to similar music.
 
#817144 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:33:53
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ya i was under the impression that sound cards have been obsolete for 10 years because modern motherboards handle audio fine


Some do, some don't. A lot of them have the Realtek AC97 integrated, and they compress audio so much that you can notice it, especially with modern metal and hardcore which tend to emphasize lower frequencies while having less-than-recommened headspace. In normal people terms, this means harsh treble and super-farty bass. You really need to shape your audio setup to what you like, since what's good for one thing isn't good for another.

Also, cheap speakers can be really good, they can also be bad. Low end audio stuff is wildly inconsistent and some of the bigger lines even have different stuff in the same packaging (i.e. SkullCandy Ink'd). Budget $100 for speakers and you could go under that, but consider reviews from people who listen to similar music.


so the cheap shit they put in store made dell's probably sucks, but a high end motherboard made for new gen i7s is proalbay good on the audio front
 
#817145 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:35:22
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ex. intels current extreme motherboard says 10.1 surround sound
 
#817146 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:50:30
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Unnecessarily high number of channels IMO. Number of channels doesn't really matter, but I remember a lot of earlier 5.1 systems compressing audio to something horrible below 128kbps. To simplify it, think of the awful sound that cymbals tend to have on YouTube videos. A surprising number of high-end computers have fucking awful sound cards onboard, like the HP laptops with "beats by dr. dre" that sound like ass.

I don't know a whole lot about recent sound cards, when I last used my desktop I had a Creative 5.1 card that I paid $2.50 for on clearance at the store I used to work at, and it sounded good. The sound cards pulled from 2002-2004 Dell Dimensions sucked.

I get kind of picky with sound because I listen to a lot of stuff that doesn't have the cleanest production, and weak spots, especially a bad source/speakers/headphones can really ruin it, and there is both great, cheap stuff that I like, and overpriced equipment that sounds like shit IMO. For example, this song sounds awful compressed on YouTube and the clarity is non-existant with bad headphones, and a weak sound card (like many laptop onboards) doesn't help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTxAiNKLxG0
 
#817147 | Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:53:42
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nothing on youtube sounds good though
 
#817179 | Wed - Dec 14 2011 - 08:46:19
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thanks adam..fag :banana:

ok for storage i have right now, 2x 2tb externals and 2x 500gb internals full of data. i want a ton of storage as to how i get it..idc more hdd mean bigger tower though

im on the fence about audio right now....9/10 times im on headphones but will eventually want nice surround in speaker form..do cards av box really matter with headphones?

pc will be used for home server media center/gaming rig and work. more media and games than anything imo
 
#817187 | Wed - Dec 14 2011 - 16:03:26
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you shouldnt get a small compact tower anyway because it has poor air flow, so 3 hard drive bays no problem, mine has 4 + 2 more for ssd
 
#817189 | Wed - Dec 14 2011 - 17:11:31
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Anything over 23 inches is too big for a monitor imo.
 
#817200 | Wed - Dec 14 2011 - 19:32:06
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Quote (Zodijackyl @ Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:27:25)
Quote (randomtask @ Tue - Dec 13 2011 - 22:16:30)
ya i was under the impression that sound cards have been obsolete for 10 years because modern motherboards handle audio fine


Some do, some don't. A lot of them have the Realtek AC97 integrated, and they compress audio so much that you can notice it, especially with modern metal and hardcore which tend to emphasize lower frequencies while having less-than-recommened headspace. In normal people terms, this means harsh treble and super-farty bass. You really need to shape your audio setup to what you like, since what's good for one thing isn't good for another.

Also, cheap speakers can be really good, they can also be bad. Low end audio stuff is wildly inconsistent and some of the bigger lines even have different stuff in the same packaging (i.e. SkullCandy Ink'd). Budget $100 for speakers and you could go under that, but consider reviews from people who listen to similar music.



I was talking some dented box logitech if you wanted to go small scale or a box'd jamo or polk set that would run maybe 200$ for a full 5

Tim if you get a receiver you wont matter about a sound card because it will process the audio, you will just send it the audio completely unprocessed.
 
#817201 | Wed - Dec 14 2011 - 21:20:07
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Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Wed - Dec 14 2011 - 18:11:31)
Anything over 23 inches is too big for a monitor imo.


noty
 
#817206 | Wed - Dec 14 2011 - 23:07:10
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pooping about things ive bought
as of yesterday my car is 1/3 paid off
thats all
 
#817207 | Wed - Dec 14 2011 - 23:07:24
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also, 3 bucks on powerball
 
#817208 | Thu - Dec 15 2011 - 00:35:56
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Quote (blind_chief @ Wed - Dec 14 2011 - 20:07:24)
also, 3 bucks on powerball


i didnt win

anything
 
#817209 | Thu - Dec 15 2011 - 00:36:13
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loius ck $5 stand up
worth every penny
 
#817324 | Fri - Dec 16 2011 - 03:06:55
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wtf happened here
 
#817534 | Sat - Dec 17 2011 - 22:18:29
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bump
 
#817565 | Sun - Dec 18 2011 - 09:36:13
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Dec 15 2011 - 00:36:13)
loius ck $5 stand up
worth every penny


I pirated it, but you know if I was like clearly a piece of shit and you know had a job and a flow of income, I am a good person and would of probably bought it from his site.
 
#818405 | Mon - Dec 26 2011 - 15:43:04
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Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Sun - Dec 18 2011 - 09:36:13)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Dec 15 2011 - 00:36:13)
loius ck $5 stand up
worth every penny


I pirated it, but you know if I was like clearly a piece of shit and you know had a job and a flow of income, I am a good person and would of probably bought it from his site.


It's 5 fucking dollars. Even I have 5 fucking dollars. And I'm the guy that sends secret santa gifts half a year later. Fuck is wrong with you. You probably had to listen to it in mono too you deaf fuck.
 
#818580 | Tue - Dec 27 2011 - 17:23:37
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i want to buy another SSD so i can put some games on it
 
#818872 | Thu - Dec 29 2011 - 15:13:16
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christmas presents for girlfriend. -slippers,wine,cook book ( she sucks dick at cooking)

prob the new assassins creed game for myself soon

new slider
 
#820052 | Tue - Jan 3 2012 - 22:51:01
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work
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drive home in snow
food
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#821535 | Thu - Jan 19 2012 - 14:17:21
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ruining adams last poop
 
#821735 | Sat - Jan 21 2012 - 12:25:49
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never bother with two gfx cards, just get one good one.
 
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Sat - Jan 21 2012 - 09:25:49)
never bother with two gfx cards, just get one good one.


unless you have 2 good ones
 
#822376 | Sun - Jan 29 2012 - 10:21:30
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - Jan 21 2012 - 20:26:00)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Sat - Jan 21 2012 - 09:25:49)
never bother with two gfx cards, just get one good one.


unless you have 2 good ones


True, to a point, but it's clearly particularly useful, better off running one higher grade one than trying to use crossfire. (Generally).
 
#822377 | Sun - Jan 29 2012 - 10:22:55
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That being said, I'm on the market for a new comp, probably won't build my own as I'd rather have something portable, and will wind up with something like a dell xps 15z which is only running a 520.

Then again, I play runescape, and might pick up WOW, or D3. Only game I'd be worried about it handling is D3.
 
#822378 | Sun - Jan 29 2012 - 10:24:15
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Also, I'm cheap, so trying to get this config at under 700. Saw a few deals on ebay what were close, but mainly they were the 2410's instead of the 2430's. I'm clearly sure if I'd really notice the different in processing power for every day application use.
 
#822379 | Sun - Jan 29 2012 - 10:34:14
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http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/O..._951007_&Flag=1

Or this maybe... :donno:

This post has been edited by sardoniclysane on Sun - Jan 29 2012 - 10:34:26
 
#822380 | Sun - Jan 29 2012 - 11:27:33
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http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/control...=WKLYDEALSY470P

Or this... curse my tax return clearly being here for another two weeks. Deal will probably be up.
 
#822537 | Tue - Jan 31 2012 - 23:27:46
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nothing right now, though laptip is dying so need to do something in the next 3-6 months
 
#827206 | Fri - Mar 16 2012 - 06:11:58
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Hope my wife let's me buy something. Why over clock btw?
 
#830755 | Thu - Apr 19 2012 - 13:49:57
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This is what is on the way....my comp shit the bed
I5 2500k
128g ssd
1t hdd
Gtx 580sc
850w psu
Asrock mobo
Coolermaster haf
Hyper 212+ cooler
Win7 ult

Shitty laptop for wife....
 
#830987 | Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 20:27:25
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since i dont understand or care to know anything about computers
can someone link me to a suitable labtop for d3 and websurfing
 
#830994 | Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 20:59:50
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Quote (Raffles @ Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 17:27:25)
since i dont understand or care to know anything about computers
can someone link me to a suitable labtop for d3 and websurfing


Buy the cheapest laptop walmart has on sale. If that's all you want just buy cheap and replace every 2 years.

Also, Fuck you
 
#830996 | Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 21:19:47
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i said nothing about cheap or walmart :'(
sorry i ruined computer nerd talk
fuck

This post has been edited by Raffles on Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 21:20:21
 
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i said nothing about cheap or walmart :'(
sorry i ruined computer nerd talk
fuck


if all you want is internet and d3 then go cheap
 
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Quote (Raffles @ Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 18:19:47)
i said nothing about cheap or walmart :'(
sorry i ruined computer nerd talk
fuck


if all you want is internet and d3 then go cheap


well i went cheap a few years ago
downloaded the beta and it wont even install, needs newer os

thats why i was asking
 
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Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 21:28:48)
Quote (Raffles @ Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 18:19:47)
i said nothing about cheap or walmart :'(
sorry i ruined computer nerd talk
fuck


if all you want is internet and d3 then go cheap


well i went cheap a few years ago
downloaded the beta and it wont even install, needs newer os

thats why i was asking


cheap is generally clearly about the os but the mobo/gfx. neither are going to limit you on d3/the internet at this point. sure, in 2 years the average flash infused webpage will tax your system.
 
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Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 21:35:24)
Quote (Raffles @ Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 18:30:24)
Quote (blind_chief @ Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 21:28:48)
Quote (Raffles @ Fri - Apr 20 2012 - 18:19:47)
i said nothing about cheap or walmart :'(
sorry i ruined computer nerd talk
fuck


if all you want is internet and d3 then go cheap


well i went cheap a few years ago
downloaded the beta and it wont even install, needs newer os

thats why i was asking


cheap is generally clearly about the os but the mobo/gfx. neither are going to limit you on d3/the internet at this point. sure, in 2 years the average flash infused webpage will tax your system.


scary thought
 
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you need a $2000 alienware to play d3
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