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#829550 | Mon - Apr 9 2012 - 20:20:14
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#829568 | Mon - Apr 9 2012 - 22:15:44
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edited title because im 'parently stupid
 
#829597 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 10:40:27
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Just get a WD green for bulk storage, otherwise n1
 
#829598 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 10:57:29
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the crucial m4 is good, processor everyone seems to be going 2500k, clearly 2400k. AS rock makes good motherboards too as far as ive read, for the price range of 200 bucks you can get a killer mobo. the rosewill hive series 750w psu is supposedly the best out there, and is cheaper. case is fine, all about preference really. That cpu cooler is the most bang for your buck out there, but if you up your price limit on that there a lot better coolers out there. Your memory is good for ocing, but if you plan to overclock the samsungs are very popular and low voltage. other than these minor tweaks looks like a great gaming rig.

i think its better to get a 180 dollar GPU and replace it as needed instead of a 500-600 dollar one that will last 2 years longer

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#829599 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 10:58:18
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but what do i know im a mac user
 
#829600 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 11:00:40
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obligatory link to a .jsp toilet

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61788537&f=189

memnoch's build is exactly like what you have, with the upgrades i mentioned (third poop down). his is 800-900 bucks but you still need to add monitor, gpu, and Windows so that kicks it into the 1300 dollar range depending on what you get

edit: nevermind, his comes with windows, so you can spend that 100 bucks on the crucial m4 in addition to the 500gb seagate or whatever HDD you want

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#829603 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 11:53:55
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wait wut
why pay 100$ for windows 7
http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7049713/Win...veWAT_Included_

also
i'm no computer wizard or anything
but don't you need a processor without integrated graphics if you're planning on using a video card? that's what i always thought

 
#829605 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 12:14:31
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#829611 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 12:36:08
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just go ahead and do all the footwork for me. when you are happy with the final product, im going to buy it too

ive been resisting the idea of upgrading my PC. for some reason my wife has been asking me to build a new one. D3 on the horizon with a babby at home who is ready and willing to farm for me
 
#829612 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 12:42:42
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i would love to build my dream comp but wife wont let me for another year
 
#829613 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 13:12:01
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wait...intel? pffff fuck that
amd or nothing at all
 
#829614 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 13:28:48
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 12:42:42)
i would love to build my dream comp but wife wont let me for another year


same
 
#829618 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 14:20:04
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you dont have enough combo deals for buying on newegg
 
#829619 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 14:25:30
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if youre paying 210 for a motherboard, you should find a z77 instead of p67
 
#829620 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 15:00:04
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that case has no 2.5" bays, you will need a mounting bracket for your ssd unless it comes with one
 
#829621 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 15:15:19
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do you really want a 6gb/s hard drive when you are using an ssd for os/etc?
 
#829622 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 15:16:50
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Quote (randomtask @ Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 16:15:19)
do you really want a 6gb/s hard drive when you are using an ssd for os/etc?


and do you have a sata iii cable in your current computer that you are going to transfer over? otherwise you need a cable
 
#829624 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 15:43:49
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heres an i7 build thats cheaper than both of your i5 builds, has $55 of mail in rebates and better ram and motherboard


get on my level





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#829629 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 17:55:16
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i thought computers just came in 15" or 17"
 
#829631 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 19:40:52
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clearly getting a plastic case, but i didnt notice the lack of 2.5" bay, ty
want an asus mobo
i honestly just skppped the z77s as i just figured "new = overpriced" but some are clearly too shabby pricewise now that i look.
why should i go caviar blue over black? (im clearly opposed to it but again, the difference in price seemed negligible ($15)
i dont need a 6g/s but its clearly much more, i dont see much incentive to clearly get it?
why is your cooler master better over the corsair 650w?
its clearly that i dont want i7 but i also didnt want to cheapen everything else just to get a chip that i wont be fully utilizing

i know i didnt have cables, i was sticking to parts

shalst try to find a decent z77

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#829632 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 19:48:51
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Quote (xstakemx @ Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 10:12:01)
wait...intel? pffff fuck that
amd or nothing at all


nty
 
#829633 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 19:55:40
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also, what bundle did you select to get the free flash card and usb cord? i need neither but :k: free
 
#829634 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 20:21:41
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Quote (blind_chief @ Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 20:40:52)
clearly getting a plastic case, but i didnt notice the lack of 2.5" bay, ty
want an asus mobo
i honestly just skppped the z77s as i just figured "new = overpriced" but some are clearly too shabby pricewise now that i look.
why should i go caviar blue over black? (im clearly opposed to it but again, the difference in price seemed negligible ($15)
i dont need a 6g/s but its clearly much more, i dont see much incentive to clearly get it?
why is your cooler master better over the corsair 650w?
its clearly that i dont want i7 but i also didnt want to cheapen everything else just to get a chip that i wont be fully utilizing

i know i didnt have cables, i was sticking to parts

shalst try to find a decent z77


i7-2600 right now is only 60 dollars more than the i5-2500k on newegg
since you are assembling yourself, consider the cpu cooler/case/power supply all being the same brand to reduce the chance the case is a bad fit
if you want asus motherboard, go to the processor and scroll through the bundle deals until you find a processor and motherboard combo
the only difference between the caviar blue in my build and the caviar black you picked, besides the blue being 25 dollars cheaper, is the blue having a 16mb cache to the blacks 32mb, and that means very little, if you want to spend the extra 25 dollars, it would be better spent someplace else in the build (see: i7 vs i5)
 
#829640 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 21:22:19
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#829643 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 21:30:40
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Case: Corsair Carbide Series 400R Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2700K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
Cooling Fan: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
Motherboard: [CrossFireX] Asus P8Z77-V LX Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 2x PCIe x16 (1 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 3 PCI
Memory: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card [-10] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
Power Supply Upgrade: 700 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
Hard Drive: 120GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 515MB/s Write [+23] (Single Drive)
Data Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
LCD Monitor: 24" Widescreen 1920x1080 Asus VS247H-P LCD [+157]
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS

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#829644 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 21:31:20
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^$1389 everything included

plus tax

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#829651 | Tue - Apr 10 2012 - 22:02:39
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#829759 | Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 12:18:50
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case: COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119216

hd: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136795

monitor: ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
Item #: N82E16824236153

gfx: XFX Double D HD-687A-ZDFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with ...
Item #: N82E16814150521

psu: SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817151093

ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
Item #: N82E16820231445

mobo: ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item #: N82E16813131792

cpu: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
Item #: N82E16819115072

ssd: Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820148441

with windows 7 $1284.90 + $12 in shipping

i think thats what im going with
 
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get on with it already
 
#829767 | Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 12:56:56
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 12:18:50)
case:    COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    Item #: N82E16811119216

hd:    Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    Item #: N82E16822136795

monitor:    ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
    Item #: N82E16824236153

gfx:      XFX Double D HD-687A-ZDFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with ...
    Item #: N82E16814150521

psu:    SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    Item #: N82E16817151093
   
ram:    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
    Item #: N82E16820231445

mobo:    ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
    Item #: N82E16813131792

cpu:    Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
    Item #: N82E16819115072

ssd:    Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    Item #: N82E16820148441

with windows 7 $1284.90 + $12 in shipping

i think thats what im going with


looks awesome! donno why that power supply but w/e
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 13:56:56)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 12:18:50)
case:    COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    Item #: N82E16811119216

hd:    Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    Item #: N82E16822136795

monitor:    ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
    Item #: N82E16824236153

gfx:      XFX Double D HD-687A-ZDFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with ...
    Item #: N82E16814150521

psu:    SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    Item #: N82E16817151093
   
ram:    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
    Item #: N82E16820231445

mobo:    ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
    Item #: N82E16813131792

cpu:    Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
    Item #: N82E16819115072

ssd:    Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    Item #: N82E16820148441

with windows 7 $1284.90 + $12 in shipping

i think thats what im going with


looks awesome! donno why that power supply but w/e


Where did all that shit come from, its like you changed to a bunch of shittier parts for the same price
 
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 13:56:56)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 12:18:50)
case:    COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    Item #: N82E16811119216

hd:    Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    Item #: N82E16822136795

monitor:    ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
    Item #: N82E16824236153

gfx:      XFX Double D HD-687A-ZDFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with ...
    Item #: N82E16814150521

psu:    SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    Item #: N82E16817151093
   
ram:    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
    Item #: N82E16820231445

mobo:    ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
    Item #: N82E16813131792

cpu:    Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
    Item #: N82E16819115072

ssd:    Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    Item #: N82E16820148441

with windows 7 $1284.90 + $12 in shipping

i think thats what im going with


looks awesome! donno why that power supply but w/e


Where did all that shit come from, its like you changed to a bunch of shittier parts for the same price


things that changed:
psu - thats a better psu than what i had before (based on random reviews ofc)
ram - thats better ram than i had before (better latency)
gfx card - different brand (xfs instead of asus), it was cheaper and quality is the same based on all searches
mobo - i dont need a z77
case - w/e i dont care i can change that later

explain "shittier" or why you think so

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shit, wrong psu, should be the 620w, my bad
 
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i would still take that last prebuilt
 
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i would still take that last prebuilt


i honestly want to know why you called it all shittier parts for the same price?
 
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i would still take that last prebuilt


i honestly want to know why you called it all shittier parts for the same price?


without combo deals you went back down to i5 and z68 and didnt save any money
 
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even that last newegg build had 55 dollars mail in rebates, so its 1250+tax

theres a few things on there that need tweaked though
 
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 13:51:51)
even that last newegg build had 55 dollars mail in rebates, so its 1250+tax

theres a few things on there that need tweaked though


my friend is also looking, i sent him your build. its p good, donno what to change tho
 
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 10:41:31)
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i would still take that last prebuilt


i honestly want to know why you called it all shittier parts for the same price?


without combo deals you went back down to i5 and z68 and didnt save any money


i saved over 100 bucks from first list (free windows), and basically everything is money off sticker price. i honestly cant see why i would need i7 and brand new mobo for my gaming style. im clearly opposed to it but i cant think of any reason why i need to. is there any game you can think of that i couldnt play on high settings and clearly be pleased with from this build? tomshardware reviews seem to show that i7 is clearly really all that much better performing than an i5, and z68 and z77 are essentially the same.

original plan was to fit a computer build into $1000, then i tacked on the monitor. i managed to do that with this build.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-...0k,2833-12.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-ex...ark,3174-4.html

 
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 10:51:51)
even that last newegg build had 55 dollars mail in rebates, so its 1250+tax

theres a few things on there that need tweaked though


what needs tweeking john, be specific (without getting offbrand items)
outside of wanting the caviar black every component is the cheapest in its class that i can find.
i feel like i probably improved my build and saved 100 bucks.

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even that last newegg build had 55 dollars mail in rebates, so its 1250+tax

theres a few things on there that need tweaked though


my friend is also looking, i sent him your build. its p good, donno what to change tho


a few things were off, heres an upd8


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even that last newegg build had 55 dollars mail in rebates, so its 1250+tax

theres a few things on there that need tweaked though


what needs tweeking john, be specific (without getting offbrand items)
outside of wanting the caviar black every component is the cheapest in its class that i can find.
i feel like i probably improved my build and saved 100 bucks.


do you know the difference between caviar black and the caviar blue i picked
 
#829794 | Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 14:30:25
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as soon one of those will get cheaper, i must have one

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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 11:30:03)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 15:20:52)
Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 10:51:51)
even that last newegg build had 55 dollars mail in rebates, so its 1250+tax

theres a few things on there that need tweaked though


what needs tweeking john, be specific (without getting offbrand items)
outside of wanting the caviar black every component is the cheapest in its class that i can find.
i feel like i probably improved my build and saved 100 bucks.


do you know the difference between caviar black and the caviar blue i picked


i used dopkes voice to answer this
 
#829796 | Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 14:37:03
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updated joe version

http://i.imgur.com/Igo4K.jpg
 
#829797 | Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 14:37:17
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 14:30:03)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 15:20:52)
Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 10:51:51)
even that last newegg build had 55 dollars mail in rebates, so its 1250+tax

theres a few things on there that need tweaked though


what needs tweeking john, be specific (without getting offbrand items)
outside of wanting the caviar black every component is the cheapest in its class that i can find.
i feel like i probably improved my build and saved 100 bucks.


do you know the difference between caviar black and the caviar blue i picked


bigger catche = faster data transfer?
 
#829798 | Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 14:38:25
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updated joe version

http://i.imgur.com/Igo4K.jpg


change the selected case to the one you latest picked and add 10 bux
 
#829799 | Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 14:38:26
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ohh, with my mail-in rebates and promo code its $1246.22
 
#829800 | Thu - Apr 12 2012 - 14:39:47
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updated joe version

http://i.imgur.com/Igo4K.jpg


change the selected case to the one you latest picked and add 10 bux


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