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#839876 | Tue - Jul 17 2012 - 23:52:47
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if only we had charter schools where money kept our kids safe
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were the 2


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#839882 | Tue - Jul 17 2012 - 23:58:17
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ITT: Mos thinking he knows shit and getting enraged because he doesn't. Just another fat kid raging at the world.

Good job.

Punishing innocents is by far and away the way to go. This is an awesome cycle, let's keep doing it.
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ITT: Mos thinking he knows shit and getting enraged because he doesn't. Just another fat kid raging at the world.

Good job.

Punishing innocents is by far and away the way to go. This is an awesome cycle, let's keep doing it.


I'd proclaim that I'm not mad but who cares.

Who are the innocents you speak of, the molestation victims or the athletic department?
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#839885 | Wed - Jul 18 2012 - 00:05:35
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rich people taking advantage of poor people using the defense of "you only punish yourself" as an excuse
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#839886 | Wed - Jul 18 2012 - 00:08:05
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ITT: Mos thinking he knows shit and getting enraged because he doesn't. Just another fat kid raging at the world.

Good job.

Punishing innocents is by far and away the way to go. This is an awesome cycle, let's keep doing it.


I'd proclaim that I'm not mad but who cares.

Who are the innocents you speak of, the molestation victims or the athletic department?


the innocents are the potential football players in the future
so trade tattoos for jersies and yea, lets punish everyone. but molest kids and you are only going after people who didnt do it.
meanwhile the "institution/corporation/brand name" is protected because thats all that matters
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ITT: Mos thinking he knows shit and getting enraged because he doesn't. Just another fat kid raging at the world.

Good job.

Punishing innocents is by far and away the way to go. This is an awesome cycle, let's keep doing it.


I'd proclaim that I'm not mad but who cares.

Who are the innocents you speak of, the molestation victims or the athletic department?


the innocents are the potential football players in the future
so trade tattoos for jersies and yea, lets punish everyone. but molest kids and you are only going after people who didnt do it.
meanwhile the "institution/corporation/brand name" is protected because thats all that matters


Why are we on this side of the opinion and everyone else is retarded?
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#839910 | Wed - Jul 18 2012 - 10:59:40
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Saw that on the news this morning, awesomeness

Hope it's the students
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#839915 | Wed - Jul 18 2012 - 14:33:28
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it is the year of our lord 2012 on this fucked up earth and brand is more important than actions & accountability

even though to sane humans they go hand in hand
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#839942 | Wed - Jul 18 2012 - 23:10:12
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Quote (blind_chief @ Wed - Jul 18 2012 - 01:08:05)
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ITT: Mos thinking he knows shit and getting enraged because he doesn't. Just another fat kid raging at the world.

Good job.

Punishing innocents is by far and away the way to go. This is an awesome cycle, let's keep doing it.


I'd proclaim that I'm not mad but who cares.

Who are the innocents you speak of, the molestation victims or the athletic department?


the innocents are the potential football players in the future
so trade tattoos for jersies and yea, lets punish everyone. but molest kids and you are only going after people who didnt do it.
meanwhile the "institution/corporation/brand name" is protected because thats all that matters


Football players on the team now aside (who should rightly be granted the ability to transfer out immediately), keep in mind football pays for ALL other athletics, especially now since title 9 has been in effect. You think any of those other sports are making money? Really? Plus most other sports you aren't on a full ride. I know when I was offered a scholarship for track from Kent St it didn't cover all of my tuition.

Those people will be vastly effected by this, but it's ok, because again, punishing additional innocents is the way to go.
What about business owners in the area? Their children? They asked for this as well?

Do I need to continue the trickle down ad-infinitum or...this isn't just as simple as everyone makes it out to be.

I'm not saying the athletic department is innocent. I'm not sure where Nick even got that idea.

Also, Re: MOS. I went to OSU, and actually hung out with a number of players from the 1997-2004 era.(Not all the time, I'm not going to claim that) Among those whom I actually wound up at where they were living at the time, a whole 2 had digs that were well above and beyond what I'd expect from typical college students.

Katzenmoyer, who no shit, was paid. And Scotty McMullen, who's family had money. Actually that party was pretty LOL because Nugent had missed a gw fg and this really huge guy who got obliterated kept wandering around outside screaming "WHEREEES NUGENT!!!!!!!!!!!".

Oh, and Stanley Jackson was a midget. People talk about Troy Smith being small....Stanley wasn't much taller than me.
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#839947 | Thu - Jul 19 2012 - 00:49:13
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Wed - Jul 18 2012 - 20:10:12)
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ITT: Mos thinking he knows shit and getting enraged because he doesn't. Just another fat kid raging at the world.

Good job.

Punishing innocents is by far and away the way to go. This is an awesome cycle, let's keep doing it.


I'd proclaim that I'm not mad but who cares.

Who are the innocents you speak of, the molestation victims or the athletic department?


the innocents are the potential football players in the future
so trade tattoos for jersies and yea, lets punish everyone. but molest kids and you are only going after people who didnt do it.
meanwhile the "institution/corporation/brand name" is protected because thats all that matters


Football players on the team now aside (who should rightly be granted the ability to transfer out immediately), keep in mind football pays for ALL other athletics, especially now since title 9 has been in effect. You think any of those other sports are making money? Really? Plus most other sports you aren't on a full ride. I know when I was offered a scholarship for track from Kent St it didn't cover all of my tuition.

Those people will be vastly effected by this, but it's ok, because again, punishing additional innocents is the way to go.
What about business owners in the area? Their children? They asked for this as well?

Do I need to continue the trickle down ad-infinitum or...this isn't just as simple as everyone makes it out to be.

I'm not saying the athletic department is innocent. I'm not sure where Nick even got that idea.

Also, Re: MOS. I went to OSU, and actually hung out with a number of players from the 1997-2004 era.(Not all the time, I'm not going to claim that) Among those whom I actually wound up at where they were living at the time, a whole 2 had digs that were well above and beyond what I'd expect from typical college students.

Katzenmoyer, who no shit, was paid. And Scotty McMullen, who's family had money. Actually that party was pretty LOL because Nugent had missed a gw fg and this really huge guy who got obliterated kept wandering around outside screaming "WHEREEES NUGENT!!!!!!!!!!!".

Oh, and Stanley Jackson was a midget. People talk about Troy Smith being small....Stanley wasn't much taller than me.


stop trying to make weak arguments to satisfy your preconceived notions, you are better than that. allow me to extrapolate your analogy to a real world scenario.

hi, i have a wife and 2 kids. i also have my brother and his wife and kids living in my basement. during my off time i like to invite neighborhood kids over to my bathroom. they really seem to like my shower. but you cant punish me because im the only person in the house who makes enough to pay the rent. it would be unfair to make all my dependents have to find other housing simply because i like to shower with little boys.

ill let you draw the comparisons.
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#839976 | Thu - Jul 19 2012 - 11:20:17
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Ohio State sells memorabilia to make some cash (gets raped). Penn State covers up child molestation for years.

I don't see how you can argue the NCAA would be wrong to make some sanctions/punishment.

However, with the punishments that could be laid down. Kids should be allowed to transfer, even if it is past deadline imo.

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mad magazine is awesome
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#839995 | Thu - Jul 19 2012 - 17:52:43
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Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Thu - Jul 19 2012 - 08:20:17)
Ohio State sells memorabilia to make some cash (gets raped). Penn State covers up child molestation for years.

I don't see how you can argue the NCAA would be wrong to make some sanctions/punishment.

However, with the punishments that could be laid down. Kids should be allowed to transfer, even if it is past deadline imo.


i dont think anyone would ever penalize an entire university and tell all the current athletes and students "sorry, get fucked. you cant transfer".
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Ohio State sells memorabilia to make some cash (gets raped). Penn State covers up child molestation for years.

I don't see how you can argue the NCAA would be wrong to make some sanctions/punishment.

However, with the punishments that could be laid down. Kids should be allowed to transfer, even if it is past deadline imo.


i dont think anyone would ever penalize an entire university and tell all the current athletes and students "sorry, get fucked. you cant transfer".


They should do more than that in this situation.

I have never said the university shouldn't be held accountable. All I am saying they need to do what they can so that we're not punishing/harming other innocents.

For some reason that seems to have gotten lost in this conversation.
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Ohio State sells memorabilia to make some cash (gets raped). Penn State covers up child molestation for years.

I don't see how you can argue the NCAA would be wrong to make some sanctions/punishment.

However, with the punishments that could be laid down. Kids should be allowed to transfer, even if it is past deadline imo.


i dont think anyone would ever penalize an entire university and tell all the current athletes and students "sorry, get fucked. you cant transfer".


They should do more than that in this situation.

I have never said the university shouldn't be held accountable. All I am saying they need to do what they can so that we're not punishing/harming other innocents.

For some reason that seems to have gotten lost in this conversation.


there is no way to remove the potential innocents from this. the blame, however, rests on the institution and not the eventual regulators and the penalty they will impose. when large entities are not more important that the people involved then we will have made serious progress.
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Quote (the year 2015)
"hey, remember when penn state had a football program?"


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/...e-nittany-lions
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jul 22 2012 - 10:26:20)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Jul 16 2012 - 16:33:05)
Quote (the year 2015)
"hey, remember when penn state had a football program?"


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/...e-nittany-lions


will still have a team
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jul 22 2012 - 10:26:20)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Jul 16 2012 - 16:33:05)
Quote (the year 2015)
"hey, remember when penn state had a football program?"


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/...e-nittany-lions


will still have a team


ever seen necessary roughness?
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#840308 | Sun - Jul 22 2012 - 10:28:23
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i only hope the penalty is serious, otherwise nothing is learned because the institution is still more important than the people
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i only hope the penalty is serious, otherwise nothing is learned because the institution is still more important than the people


supposed to be unprecedented penalties
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i only hope the penalty is serious, otherwise nothing is learned because the institution is still more important than the people


supposed to be unprecedented penalties


that could be anything though
"you cant have a coach" would be unprecedented (i kid but i hope you get my point)

but really, no scholarships, ofc no bowl games, no out of conference games (?), maybe every player must graduate lolol
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i only hope the penalty is serious, otherwise nothing is learned because the institution is still more important than the people


supposed to be unprecedented penalties


that could be anything though
"you cant have a coach" would be unprecedented (i kid but i hope you get my point)

but really, no scholarships, ofc no bowl games, no out of conference games (?), maybe every player must graduate lolol


im so fucking sick and tired of these psu fans cry that its not fair to punish the current players, local businesses, etc

FUCK THOSE RAPED BOYS WHO CARES
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i only hope the penalty is serious, otherwise nothing is learned because the institution is still more important than the people


supposed to be unprecedented penalties


that could be anything though
"you cant have a coach" would be unprecedented (i kid but i hope you get my point)

but really, no scholarships, ofc no bowl games, no out of conference games (?), maybe every player must graduate lolol


im so fucking sick and tired of these psu fans cry that its not fair to punish the current players, local businesses, etc

FUCK THOSE RAPED BOYS WHO CARES


but they are right, its not fair. and the real justice would be they all ragequit penn state thus crippling the institution thus showing other institutions that they are infact not above the people that surround them.

instead idiorts will blame regulators (aka liberals) and claim that the jobs were more important and not blame penn state who valued itself over those very same jobs.

This post has been edited by blind_chief on Sun - Jul 22 2012 - 11:11:15
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i only hope the penalty is serious, otherwise nothing is learned because the institution is still more important than the people


supposed to be unprecedented penalties


that could be anything though
"you cant have a coach" would be unprecedented (i kid but i hope you get my point)

but really, no scholarships, ofc no bowl games, no out of conference games (?), maybe every player must graduate lolol


im so fucking sick and tired of these psu fans cry that its not fair to punish the current players, local businesses, etc

FUCK THOSE RAPED BOYS WHO CARES


but they are right, its not fair. and the real justice would be they all ragequit penn state thus crippling the institution thus showing other institutions that they are infact not above the people that surround them.

instead idiorts will blame regulators (aka liberals) and claim that the jobs were more important and not blame penn state who valued itself over those very same jobs.


yeah, life isn't fucking unfair, it wasn't unfair those boys were raped either

ruining more lives only proves that we will not stand for this madness

letting them go on happily sweeping it under the rug proves that we don't give a shit those boys lives were ruined and will promote others to continue committing these sins

typical damned if you do and damned if you dont scenario
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#840373 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 08:23:12
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4 year bowl ban
monetary penalty
probation
arbitrary "you actually lost those games"

ohh, okay
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 05:23:12)
4 year bowl ban
monetary penalty
probation
arbitrary "you actually lost those games"

ohh, okay


missed the scholarship penalty
-10 for for years

that should be worse imo and for a duration equal to the coverup
at least this makes it a little better
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 05:23:12)
4 year bowl ban
monetary penalty
probation
arbitrary "you actually lost those games"

ohh, okay


missed the scholarship penalty
-10 for for years

that should be worse imo and for a duration equal to the coverup
at least this makes it a little better


Dont worry, the big ten is gonna sanction too in 30 minutes!
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#840382 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 09:25:50
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for for*
lol
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4 year bowl ban
monetary penalty
probation
arbitrary "you actually lost those games"

ohh, okay


missed the scholarship penalty
-10 for for years

that should be worse imo and for a duration equal to the coverup
at least this makes it a little better


Dont worry, the big ten is gonna sanction too in 30 minutes!


big ten penalty:
"you bad"
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#840386 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 09:35:39
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really tired of how much air time espn is giving these whiny fucks complaining about the innocent people
BLAME PENN STATE
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 10:35:39)
really tired of how much air time espn is giving these whiny fucks complaining about the innocent people
BLAME PENN STATE


Cant tell if trolling since I dont have espn, but isnt nick and you saying to give the innocent people who got raped the attention?
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#840391 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 10:02:51
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why punish paterno for trying to do the right thing?
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this is kinda bullshit altogether imo
i feel like all of this is just punishing existing students and athletes and pretty much anyone eho graduated from there - it's gonna have that stigma for years
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#840395 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 10:25:00
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Big ten sanctions

"We agree with the NCAA and want to have a press release so we are restating what they said plus taking another 13million a year. Pardon us while we play the bureaucracy bullshit game to perfection and pat our own backs for doing so"
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Quote (blackjack21 @ Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 07:02:51)
why punish paterno for trying to do the right thing?


You are the worlds worst person
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really tired of how much air time espn is giving these whiny fucks complaining about the innocent people
BLAME PENN STATE


Cant tell if trolling since I dont have espn, but isnt nick and you saying to give the innocent people who got raped the attention?


They gave like 10 minutes to people talking about the innocent
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Too lenient.
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Quote (smoked @ Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 08:16:14)


sax solo
aids babies

A+++++
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#840407 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 11:51:56
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nice deflection bro!
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#840408 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 11:54:51
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nice deflection bro!


iknorite, someone linked that and i was like facepalm, at this point it doesnt matter as per our steam convo
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#840412 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 12:05:50
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"they shouldn't have taken the paterno statue down just turned it to look the other way"

game set match
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#840414 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 12:12:59
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why punish paterno for trying to do the right thing?


You are the worlds worst person


paterno was trying to save the school's image, he didn't condone raping kids... im sure he met with sandusky and was like "look, we know what you are doing, and stop, or we will fire you (or some other threat)", and then he didnt stop so they fired him.

paterno was doing what he thought was least damaging, and thought chatting with what he thought was a reasonable man would fix the issue.

yes he did the wrong action, but i think if you were in that situation it would be much more difficult a decision than you all seem to think it is
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#840415 | Mon - Jul 23 2012 - 12:25:27
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>least damaging

just stop right there

please



everyone;
http://theclassical.org/articles/heres-to-shutting-up
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