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#860292 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:28:38
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Quote (randomtask @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 17:20:43)
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maybe the time per stolen is related to the available techs to be stole?  anyway, 6th tech stolen is now 8 turns


yes, you are way behind in techs


no, im leading in one side, and behind in the other
maybe you missed the part about hitting renaissance first?

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#860294 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:29:58
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maybe the time per stolen is related to the available techs to be stole?  anyway, 6th tech stolen is now 8 turns


yes, you are way behind in techs


no, im leading in one side, and behind in the other
maybe you missed the part about hitting renaissance first?


ya thats what i meant to say i guess, you have many techs that you can research in 2-3 turns, so you steal them in 2-3 turns
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#860295 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:30:41
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Quote (randomtask @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 17:21:51)
and everyone gets spies at the same time, when the first civ reaches renaissance and each era afterward


no they dont, they are unlocked per civ, not collectively.
http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Gods_and_Kings
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#860296 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:30:58
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Quote (randomtask @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:29:58)
Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:28:38)
Quote (randomtask @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 17:20:43)
Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:20:14)
maybe the time per stolen is related to the available techs to be stole?  anyway, 6th tech stolen is now 8 turns


yes, you are way behind in techs


no, im leading in one side, and behind in the other
maybe you missed the part about hitting renaissance first?


ya thats what i meant to say i guess, you have many techs that you can research in 2-3 turns, so you steal them in 2-3 turns


but still, doesnt have to do with having a spy before other civs, because everyone gets first spy @ same time
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#860297 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:32:43
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:20:14)
maybe the time per stolen is related to the available techs to be stole?  anyway, 6th tech stolen is now 8 turns


yes, you are way behind in techs


no, im leading in one side, and behind in the other
maybe you missed the part about hitting renaissance first?


ya thats what i meant to say i guess, you have many techs that you can research in 2-3 turns, so you steal them in 2-3 turns


but still, doesnt have to do with having a spy before other civs, because everyone gets first spy @ same time


no
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#860298 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:33:12
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and everyone gets spies at the same time, when the first civ reaches renaissance and each era afterward


no they dont, they are unlocked per civ, not collectively.
http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Gods_and_Kings


im positively sure everyone gets a spy when the first civ hits renaissance, because ive gotten a spy whilst barely in the medieval era, on the same turn that "an unknown player has reached the renaissance era"

maybe the 2nd/3rd after that are individually, but not sure
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#860299 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:36:06
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yea, you may be right. the more im looking the more that the wiki is just poorly written.
but thats a fucking stupid mechanic, everyone gets it at once.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.p...64730#Espionage
yea, all at once. im actually disappointed to learn that.
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#860300 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:36:47
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anyway, this makes me feel better about ignoring half of my tree since i can pick it back up quickly, ive not done that before.
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#860301 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:39:23
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MY APOLOGIES!
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#860302 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:45:04
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broseph, come play with john and i
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#860317 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 20:01:21
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 19:45:04)
broseph, come play with john and i


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#860331 | Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 23:11:12
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i get the great wall in 3 turns, i hope i can pull this off, so i can like, purge forward
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#860332 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 00:00:24
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Quote (randomtask @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 23:11:12)
i get the great wall in 3 turns, i hope i can pull this off, so i can like, purge forward


9pm joe time, lid is shut
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#860333 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 00:02:18
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Quote (randomtask @ Sat - Jan 12 2013 - 23:11:12)
i get the great wall in 3 turns, i hope i can pull this off, so i can like, purge forward


9pm joe time, lid is shut


30 minutes ago - Joe: I'm NOT SHUTTING THE LID

Then spends the next 30 minutes not speaking until

HEY GN8
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#860339 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 07:59:49
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Sorry, the ris did me in.
ive also been waking up at 5 am every day, so im just old and tired

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#860345 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 11:41:45
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 07:59:49)
Sorry, the ris did me in.
ive also been waking up at 5 am every day, so im just old and tired


Kinda figured it was gonna when you were like, yeah, yeah I'm kinda...kinda drunk.
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#860376 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:19:02
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a question i should know the answer to

for example, babylon unique bowman. when i upgrade that unit, it looses its passive bonus since its no longer the civ specific unit, right? i assume it does but i wasnt certain.
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:19:02)
a question i should know the answer to

for example, babylon unique bowman.  when i upgrade that unit, it looses its passive bonus since its no longer the civ specific unit, right?  i assume it does but i wasnt certain.


some do and some dont, check the civ wiki page for the individual unit
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#860378 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:22:41
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a question i should know the answer to

for example, babylon unique bowman.  when i upgrade that unit, it looses its passive bonus since its no longer the civ specific unit, right?  i assume it does but i wasnt certain.


some do and some dont, check the civ wiki page for the individual unit


the bowman specifically, since its special trait is just a higher melee strength and more ranged attack, upgrades to just a composite bowman with regular stats
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#860380 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:25:53
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:19:02)
a question i should know the answer to

for example, babylon unique bowman.  when i upgrade that unit, it looses its passive bonus since its no longer the civ specific unit, right?  i assume it does but i wasnt certain.


some do and some dont, check the civ wiki page for the individual unit


the bowman specifically, since its special trait is just a higher melee strength and more ranged attack, upgrades to just a composite bowman with regular stats


things like the american minuteman, since their special trait is better movement and free promotion, keep those bonuses when they upgrade to rifleman
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#860384 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:44:25
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Quote (randomtask @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 14:25:53)
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:19:02)
a question i should know the answer to

for example, babylon unique bowman.  when i upgrade that unit, it looses its passive bonus since its no longer the civ specific unit, right?  i assume it does but i wasnt certain.


some do and some dont, check the civ wiki page for the individual unit


the bowman specifically, since its special trait is just a higher melee strength and more ranged attack, upgrades to just a composite bowman with regular stats


things like the american minuteman, since their special trait is better movement and free promotion, keep those bonuses when they upgrade to rifleman


i figured a unit-specific trait would be lost, but i couldnt recall ever actually reading about it.
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#860385 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:55:47
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didnt get GL with babylon, should remake since its 100% what the passive is for. but ill stick it out.
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#860386 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:55:59
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also, did one of you save last n8s game?

i have zero idea how i left france, only that i had 3 cities and i had no plan

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#860389 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:04:35
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:55:59)
also, did one of you save last n8s game?

i have zero idea how i left france, only that i had 3 cities and i had no plan


the ai we were playing against was really shitty, the game didnt spawn us properly, we should have been on continents with our team, as a result, montezuma ai took a shit, and probably attila too

for future reference, games against ai should be no barbs, no citystates
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#860392 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:13:02
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:55:59)
also, did one of you save last n8s game?

i have zero idea how i left france, only that i had 3 cities and i had no plan


You have some resources pillaged that I tried to get you to repair.

Then John got bored with Montazuma and wiped him out. We were going to cross the continent and finish the game mortal kombat style when you went hey gn8
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#860395 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:16:19
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also, did one of you save last n8s game?

i have zero idea how i left france, only that i had 3 cities and i had no plan


You have some resources pillaged that I tried to get you to repair.

Then John got bored with Montazuma and wiped him out. We were going to cross the continent and finish the game mortal kombat style when you went hey gn8


"i will not repair that resource. nope."
sounds like drunk toughguy me
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#860396 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:18:16
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eric, accept my friend request!
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#860397 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:18:34
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:16:19)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 15:13:02)
Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:55:59)
also, did one of you save last n8s game?

i have zero idea how i left france, only that i had 3 cities and i had no plan


You have some resources pillaged that I tried to get you to repair.

Then John got bored with Montazuma and wiped him out. We were going to cross the continent and finish the game mortal kombat style when you went hey gn8


"i will not repair that resource. nope."
sounds like drunk toughguy me


you didn't even acknowledge it. John was like, "yeah, he's not going to fix those"
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#860398 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:19:16
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:18:16)
eric, accept my friend request!


done!
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#860399 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:22:40
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 15:18:34)
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 16:55:59)
also, did one of you save last n8s game?

i have zero idea how i left france, only that i had 3 cities and i had no plan


You have some resources pillaged that I tried to get you to repair.

Then John got bored with Montazuma and wiped him out. We were going to cross the continent and finish the game mortal kombat style when you went hey gn8


"i will not repair that resource. nope."
sounds like drunk toughguy me


you didn't even acknowledge it. John was like, "yeah, he's not going to fix those"


lol
i bet thats when i was eating the left overs i had planned on saving for todays lunch
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#860402 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:45:33
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played a 1v1 duel map as attila the hun for "win a game on deity" achievement

eliminated boudicac in 800 bc, gz




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#860404 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 17:55:12
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i guess ill work on some achievement whoring
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#860409 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 19:41:14
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played a game on difficulty 1 as rome

built every wonder in the game in this playthrough, have 7 completed social policy branches and all science researched @ 2010 ad

just built united nations to finish the game, apparently i have 17 diplomatic victory votes, you need 10 to win, and i cant vote for myself, doh
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#860410 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 19:41:15
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played a game on difficulty 1 as rome

built every wonder in the game in this playthrough, have 7 completed social policy branches and all science researched @ 2010 ad

just built united nations to finish the game, apparently i have 17 diplomatic victory votes, you need 10 to win, and i cant vote for myself, doh
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#860411 | Sun - Jan 13 2013 - 19:42:34
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will be able to construct utopia before the 10 turns for official vote pass though
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#860547 | Wed - Jan 16 2013 - 02:38:20
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I don't even attempt culture vics anymore. I think to unlock the achievement I'm going to have to play at retard level.


play as ghandi on a map with meni islands, one city challenge.


yes, yes, and yes

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eric, i got 6 achievements for that


This worked like a charm. Although I used Ramses instead of Ghandi for some reason. Thanks to the both of you.
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#861650 | Sun - Feb 3 2013 - 14:16:28
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Fucking game can be so random. All my neighbors went to war with me at the same time, lost two cities then just said fuck this game.

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#861974 | Thu - Feb 7 2013 - 18:32:53
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Looks like this game has died too now.
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#861982 | Thu - Feb 7 2013 - 20:24:24
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Thu - Feb 7 2013 - 18:32:53)
Looks like this game has died too now.


its always a go-to
personally ive been playing simcity 4 with mods
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#861983 | Thu - Feb 7 2013 - 20:40:41
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Thu - Feb 7 2013 - 18:32:53)
Looks like this game has died too now.


its always a go-to


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#863379 | Sun - Mar 3 2013 - 14:50:32
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Expansion on sale for $7.50.
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#864094 | Fri - Mar 15 2013 - 13:31:30
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#868507 | Thu - Jun 6 2013 - 13:26:51
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Expansion is on sale today.
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#869333 | Tue - Jul 2 2013 - 09:21:52
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#874607 | Tue - Nov 5 2013 - 14:45:53
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catherine completed manhattan project in 1785 AD

thats not cool man
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#874608 | Tue - Nov 5 2013 - 14:50:25
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i really have no idea how to balance the priorities in this game, theres too many factors to manage

the only method i have managed to win a game is science/wonder rushing every wonder, everything else i try is utter failure against bots who have built-in advantage in every aspect except being very shitty at military tactics when you are actually in combat
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#874609 | Tue - Nov 5 2013 - 14:52:35
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playing military conquest style against bots just doesnt work, you are either outnumbered in units 3:1 against the computer, or you have so much unhappiness from your cities that you cant push further on (and the computer will somehow still think they are winning the war and wont give you anything in a peace treaty)
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#874651 | Wed - Nov 6 2013 - 18:56:36
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played another game today, had a much better start, eliminated gandhi and had 5 cities by turn 100, had the whole continent of resources
had a huge economy from holding my entire continent of luxuries and selling them off

around turn 200 i started war on germany (on the other continent, but had 4 or 5 cities at the southern end of my continent, razed them all

now im at turn 264, 1770 ad, ive got a decent sized land army and about 7 or 8 navy, but persia on the other side of the map just hit atomic era, donno what to do (im still in the industrial era)

This post has been edited by randomtask on Wed - Nov 6 2013 - 18:57:11
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#874652 | Wed - Nov 6 2013 - 18:59:57
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Quote (randomtask @ Wed - Nov 6 2013 - 18:56:36)
played another game today, had a much better start, eliminated gandhi and had 5 cities by turn 100, had the whole continent of resources
had a huge economy from holding my entire continent of luxuries and selling them off

around turn 200 i started war on germany (on the other continent, but had 4 or 5 cities at the southern end of my continent, razed them all

now im at turn 264, 1770 ad, ive got a decent sized land army and about 7 or 8 navy, but persia on the other side of the map just hit atomic era, donno what to do (im still in the industrial era)


no idea how im so far behind on tech, i kept research agreements up with everyone who had the gold, and i have a decent amount of cities who ive kept pretty close to up-to-date on tech buildings
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