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#857390 | Sat - Dec 1 2012 - 01:33:09
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - Dec 1 2012 - 01:54:06)
random game, immortal
huge map
spain
was going good
sweeds declair war
capital taken, was slow to react, cities aint what they used to be


earth?
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Quote (randomtask @ Fri - Nov 30 2012 - 23:33:09)
Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - Dec 1 2012 - 01:54:06)
random game, immortal
huge map
spain
was going good
sweeds declair war
capital taken, was slow to react, cities aint what they used to be


earth?


No, random
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#857692 | Sun - Dec 2 2012 - 19:02:45
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one city challenge with ethiopia on immortal, 1v1
at war with askia for 6000 years, while his tech slowly outpaces me
lose in modern era as soon as he gets flight
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one city challenge with ethiopia on immortal, 1v1
at war with askia for 6000 years, while his tech slowly outpaces me
lose in modern era as soon as he gets flight


one city challenge 1v1 seems so much a gimmick based on what kind of resources happen to be in your start area

also sounds like 1v1 would be harder than 1v1v1v1/6 player ffa/etc
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#857700 | Sun - Dec 2 2012 - 19:43:47
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one city challenge with ethiopia on immortal, 1v1
at war with askia for 6000 years, while his tech slowly outpaces me
lose in modern era as soon as he gets flight


youve inspired me to do a 1 city challenge.
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#857733 | Sun - Dec 2 2012 - 22:42:54
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ive won occ before with ghandi and ramesses, both on emperor, both culture victories

http://i.imgur.com/J3zsA.jpg was 4 player islands, won based on shitty ai not attacking me over water
http://i.imgur.com/C5Sib.jpg was a pretty large game and map, won this one based on the other civs fighting each other most of the time

1v1 is harder because once the other civ declares war on you then you never make peace ever again
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#857734 | Sun - Dec 2 2012 - 22:48:52
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ive won occ before with ghandi and ramesses, both on emperor, both culture victories

http://i.imgur.com/J3zsA.jpg was 4 player islands, won based on shitty ai not attacking me over water
http://i.imgur.com/C5Sib.jpg was a pretty large game and map, won this one based on the other civs fighting each other most of the time

1v1 is harder because once the other civ declares war on you then you never make peace ever again


and its a smaller map so your opponent will have cities at your borders, if you play rameses and spend production from your only city to try to rush wonders, you wont have any way to stay alive
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#857735 | Sun - Dec 2 2012 - 22:53:25
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ive won occ before with ghandi and ramesses, both on emperor, both culture victories

http://i.imgur.com/J3zsA.jpg was 4 player islands, won based on shitty ai not attacking me over water
http://i.imgur.com/C5Sib.jpg was a pretty large game and map, won this one based on the other civs fighting each other most of the time

1v1 is harder because once the other civ declares war on you then you never make peace ever again


and its a smaller map so your opponent will have cities at your borders, if you play rameses and spend production from your only city to try to rush wonders, you wont have any way to stay alive


ya, thats why i think ethiopia might be one of the only ways to win 1v1
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#857736 | Sun - Dec 2 2012 - 23:05:09
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ive won occ before with ghandi and ramesses, both on emperor, both culture victories

http://i.imgur.com/J3zsA.jpg was 4 player islands, won based on shitty ai not attacking me over water
http://i.imgur.com/C5Sib.jpg was a pretty large game and map, won this one based on the other civs fighting each other most of the time

1v1 is harder because once the other civ declares war on you then you never make peace ever again


and its a smaller map so your opponent will have cities at your borders, if you play rameses and spend production from your only city to try to rush wonders, you wont have any way to stay alive


ya, thats why i think ethiopia might be one of the only ways to win 1v1


india, china, japan maybe
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#857740 | Sun - Dec 2 2012 - 23:50:51
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occ 1v1 immortal
my ethiopia vs caesar

no war all game, just his modern era tech in 1565 AD
im not even industrial yet
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#857741 | Sun - Dec 2 2012 - 23:57:28
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Quote (___ @ Sun - Dec 2 2012 - 23:50:51)
occ 1v1 immortal
my ethiopia vs caesar

no war all game, just his modern era tech in 1565 AD
im not even industrial yet


he just completed a world wonder 3 turns in a row
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#857742 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 00:06:40
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occ 1v1 immortal
my ethiopia vs caesar

no war all game, just his modern era tech in 1565 AD
im not even industrial yet


he just completed a world wonder 3 turns in a row


1858 AD: caesar completes apollo program
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#857743 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 00:14:08
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occ 1v1 immortal
my ethiopia vs caesar

no war all game, just his modern era tech in 1565 AD
im not even industrial yet


he just completed a world wonder 3 turns in a row


1858 AD: caesar completes apollo program


1941, game over
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#857753 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 14:57:53
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occ 1v1 immortal
my ethiopia vs caesar

no war all game, just his modern era tech in 1565 AD
im not even industrial yet


he just completed a world wonder 3 turns in a row


1858 AD: caesar completes apollo program


1941, game over


just wow
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#857756 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 15:55:26
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i find when doing 1v1 you have to play on the tiniest map otherwise the computer gets a free "wide" empire which g&k seems to favor. the only thing you can really do is make sure you get all the city-states as friends then declare war. as long as you never make peace the city-states will forever be at war also. but this is expensive ofc.
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#857776 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 19:56:21
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1 city as ethiopia
tiny map
random opponent
its ghandi
this should be ok, he wont fight me forever
i discover ruins, its free tech, im researching g library on turn 3
start building g library
1 turn left
ghandi builds g library
wtf
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#857777 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 19:57:12
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granted i was founded by 4 desert tiles and 3 water tiles with no fish etc
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#857779 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 20:00:04
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if you get free tech or free pop, rush to 4 pop, have optimal production, chop a forest, rush wonder boosting culture and/or pantheon -- you might get g library like 1 time out of 10
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#857780 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 20:00:43
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Quote (___ @ Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 20:00:04)
if you get free tech or free pop, rush to 4 pop, have optimal production, chop a forest, rush wonder boosting culture and/or pantheon -- you might get g library like 1 time out of 10


0 out of 10 on diety apparently (i wouldnt know, have only read)
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#857781 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 20:08:18
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Quote (___ @ Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 18:00:04)
if you get free tech or free pop, rush to 4 pop, have optimal production, chop a forest, rush wonder boosting culture and/or pantheon -- you might get g library like 1 time out of 10


i had 6 turns left, but i did fuck up and forgot to buy a worker as soon as i had the gold. i do have that games autosave still, will proal reload and try again. but my tiles were shit for early game, thats for sure.
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#857782 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 20:09:52
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occ 1v1 immortal
my ethiopia vs caesar

no war all game, just his modern era tech in 1565 AD
im not even industrial yet


he just completed a world wonder 3 turns in a row


1858 AD: caesar completes apollo program


LOL

Take that USA.
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#857784 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 20:18:58
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 20:57:12)
granted i was founded by 4 desert tiles and 3 water tiles with no fish etc


petra ofc
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#857785 | Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 20:27:54
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Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 18:18:58)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 20:57:12)
granted i was founded by 4 desert tiles and 3 water tiles with no fish etc


petra ofc


thats a bit down the tech line ofc, but yea. petra ofc.
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#857818 | Tue - Dec 4 2012 - 03:43:13
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Dec 3 2012 - 21:27:54)
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granted i was founded by 4 desert tiles and 3 water tiles with no fish etc


petra ofc


thats a bit down the tech line ofc, but yea. petra ofc.


desert hill tiles plus petra is a second capital
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#857963 | Fri - Dec 7 2012 - 16:13:59
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ill try a 1v1v1 OCC, 1v1 a computer on high difficulty already requires exploiting ai behavior, seems pointless to make it harder
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#857965 | Fri - Dec 7 2012 - 17:07:07
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ill try a 1v1v1 OCC,  1v1 a computer on high difficulty already requires exploiting ai behavior, seems pointless to make it harder


ethiopia to my south, aztecs to my west

475 ad, they both declare war on me independently, dont know if i can survive
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ill try a 1v1v1 OCC,  1v1 a computer on high difficulty already requires exploiting ai behavior, seems pointless to make it harder


ethiopia to my south, aztecs to my west

475 ad, they both declare war on me independently, dont know if i can survive


i am russia, i need cossacks fast
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#857967 | Fri - Dec 7 2012 - 17:10:00
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ill try a 1v1v1 OCC,  1v1 a computer on high difficulty already requires exploiting ai behavior, seems pointless to make it harder


ethiopia to my south, aztecs to my west

475 ad, they both declare war on me independently, dont know if i can survive


i am russia, i need cossacks fast


ethiopia has pikemen and knights out the ass, i cant defend from that shit with composite bowmen and catapults and spearmen
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#857968 | Fri - Dec 7 2012 - 17:10:23
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ill try a 1v1v1 OCC,  1v1 a computer on high difficulty already requires exploiting ai behavior, seems pointless to make it harder


ethiopia to my south, aztecs to my west

475 ad, they both declare war on me independently, dont know if i can survive


i am russia, i need cossacks fast


ethiopia has pikemen and knights out the ass, i cant defend from that shit with composite bowmen and catapults and spearmen


i dont know why they arent pillaging my tiles either
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#857969 | Fri - Dec 7 2012 - 17:13:20
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i think i can see how this game is ending

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#857972 | Fri - Dec 7 2012 - 20:58:44
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i opened that game with a bottom of the tech tree build, since i was russia who gets bonus production from strategic resources, i rushed masonry to improve my 2 stone tiles near my city, not realizing how fast your borders expand in 1cc

was also heavy cultural, build terracotta army, pyramids and great wall. my production was way high which would have done great if i was on the same tech level as ethiopia to produce military units

handling montezuma was no problem because i was ahead/the same tech as him, and i could produce a military unit every 2 turns
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#858048 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 01:37:14
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i am bad at this
thank you john for das gamez
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#858068 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 22:20:52
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Quote (randomtask @ Sat - Dec 1 2012 - 00:10:58)
turn 200 update

gonna stop now for the night before i find myself awake at 7am



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gonna resume this game
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#858069 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 22:29:17
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austria, to the north of me, is the biggest threat, shes conquering aztec cities west of her, and completing wonders/etc

i dont really have any clear way to invade, we are both in good spots to defend from each other
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#858070 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 22:32:01
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not sure how my complete lack of faith producing buildings will hurt my late-game, since you can spend faith on great people which are a huge advantage late
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#858071 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 22:49:17
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austria completed big ben, taj mahal, and the kremlin all 10 turns ahead of me, bitch
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#858072 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 23:04:33
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Quote (randomtask @ Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 23:49:17)
austria completed big ben, taj mahal, and the kremlin all 10 turns ahead of me, bitch


austria denouncing me, other civs tell me they spied her plan to attack me, shes stealing some land on my desert stronghold with citadels

i think i might have to go on the offensive but dont even know where to attack from
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#858073 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 23:06:45
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terrain between us, thats her capital Vienna, i dont think theres any possible way to take her there, until artillery at least
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#858074 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 23:08:00
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or after taking the two former aztec cities so i can get a good surround on her capital
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#858075 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 23:12:01
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half the game is denouncing austria, so i guess i wont be viewed negatively at all for dow'ing her
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#858076 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 23:12:24
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lost about 15 occ's in a row on immortal
won my first game on settler difficulty
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#858077 | Sat - Dec 8 2012 - 23:16:26
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Quote (___ @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 00:12:24)
lost about 15 occ's in a row on immortal
won my first game on settler difficulty


i want to play a pvp occ, 1v1v1v1
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#858078 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 00:10:46
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Quote (___ @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 00:12:24)
lost about 15 occ's in a row on immortal
won my first game on settler difficulty


i want to play a pvp occ, 1v1v1v1


would be fun
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#858082 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 00:29:11
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turn 250 update

just researched railroads, had a few extra workers sleeping, they will now railroad my entire empire then get deleted

austria still hasnt DOW'd me, just more denouncing, i think she was at war with montezuma for a while and probably dedicated military resources to that

george washington over in africa is hanging onto new york and chicago, rest of his cities were taken by china/maya/mongolia

just getting to exploring the american continent now

im going to keep my science planned for apollo program, but i see the end of the tech tree is a lot more diverse for science victory now, its not just 1 linear line that makes each individual part. hopefully my advantage scientifically (barely) holds up and i can use my small but technologically advanced military to keep me safe from any possible austrian offensive, the only thing i see as a danger is that my only oil source is right on the border with austria and they could take that and pillage it while attacking me and cripple any oil-based units


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#858083 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 00:31:16
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i think the computers best chance of victorys are with culture victory, but not sure how fast they progress since they always found shittons of cities
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#858084 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 00:33:19
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my economy is holding strong, still keeping research agreements up with at least a few civs at a time, which based on the amount of "new research agreements" between ai's, mine are more frequent
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#858085 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 00:33:36
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also going to finish rationalism tree soon and shoot ahead in tech
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#858087 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 00:43:29
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Quote (randomtask @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:33:36)
also going to finish rationalism tree soon and shoot ahead in tech


being the first to hit satellites (positively sure since no civs have entered information era), having the hubble space telescope will be a huge deal (2 free gr8 scientists, free spaceship factory for rome)
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#858089 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:01:36
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i dont understand how some ai civs have such tremendous gold/turn, while also fielding a large military
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