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i dont understand how some ai civs have such tremendous gold/turn, while also fielding a large military


arabia 375 gpt
austria 628 per turn (although they just got 150 gpt from china somehow for a peace bargain)
me 48 gpt, wtf
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i dont understand how some ai civs have such tremendous gold/turn, while also fielding a large military


arabia 375 gpt
austria 628 per turn (although they just got 150 gpt from china somehow for a peace bargain)
me 48 gpt, wtf


it seems like the average is 200 gold per turn, im by far the lowest of any civ
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i dont understand how some ai civs have such tremendous gold/turn, while also fielding a large military


arabia 375 gpt
austria 628 per turn (although they just got 150 gpt from china somehow for a peace bargain)
me 48 gpt, wtf


it seems like the average is 200 gold per turn, im by far the lowest of any civ


austria just took over a third citystate with their civs special ability, might need to look at assaulting vienna
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#858094 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:10:25
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#858095 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:15:35
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i dont understand how some ai civs have such tremendous gold/turn, while also fielding a large military


arabia 375 gpt
austria 628 per turn (although they just got 150 gpt from china somehow for a peace bargain)
me 48 gpt, wtf


it seems like the average is 200 gold per turn, im by far the lowest of any civ


austria just took over a third citystate with their civs special ability, might need to look at assaulting vienna


and a fourth, bitch is getting crazy
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#858096 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:17:22
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i dont understand how some ai civs have such tremendous gold/turn, while also fielding a large military


arabia 375 gpt
austria 628 per turn (although they just got 150 gpt from china somehow for a peace bargain)
me 48 gpt, wtf


it seems like the average is 200 gold per turn, im by far the lowest of any civ


mine just went from 54 to 108 after taking the sovereignty policy, +1 gold from science buildings
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#858097 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:19:43
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discovered plastics and nuclear fission from 2 free techs from rationalism, hubble space telescope done in 2 turns which gives 2 free great scientists, and i almost have enough faith to purchase a great scientist

i guess i should make 3 academies which should set me up for the long haul into science victory, since i dont have any pressing needs for using the scientists to discover something
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#858098 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:23:09
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discovered plastics and nuclear fission from 2 free techs from rationalism, hubble space telescope done in 2 turns which gives 2 free great scientists, and i almost have enough faith to purchase a great scientist

i guess i should make 3 academies which should set me up for the long haul into science victory, since i dont have any pressing needs for using the scientists to discover something


21 turns to research nuclear missiles

prepare to eat shit austria
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#858099 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:25:18
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discovered plastics and nuclear fission from 2 free techs from rationalism, hubble space telescope done in 2 turns which gives 2 free great scientists, and i almost have enough faith to purchase a great scientist

i guess i should make 3 academies which should set me up for the long haul into science victory, since i dont have any pressing needs for using the scientists to discover something


21 turns to research nuclear missiles

prepare to eat shit austria


i wonder if there is (and think there should be if there isnt) some sort of huge ai and citystate hate towards the first civ that uses nuclear weapons in the game
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#858100 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:32:34
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i dont understand how some ai civs have such tremendous gold/turn, while also fielding a large military


arabia 375 gpt
austria 628 per turn (although they just got 150 gpt from china somehow for a peace bargain)
me 48 gpt, wtf


it seems like the average is 200 gold per turn, im by far the lowest of any civ


austria just took over a third citystate with their civs special ability, might need to look at assaulting vienna


and a fourth, bitch is getting crazy


she took a 5th, and its one of the citystates that are directly on my border, shouldnt be a problem because my military units are more advanced than hers, but definitely ais have the power to stream shittons of units out of nowhere to the frontlines
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#858101 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:36:31
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your agent brutus discovered and killed an austrian spy trying to steal technology in rome

aww yiss, brutus
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#858104 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:40:55
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the mayans have completed the manhattan project, 1806 ad
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#858105 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 01:42:42
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high-economy rome is so good, soon as you learn a tech that grants a new building, use gold to purch in capital, then all your cities instantly get free production to build the new building too
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#858107 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 02:03:16
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1826 austria has completed the apollo program
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1826 austria has completed the apollo program


1830 boudicca has completed the apollo program
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#858109 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 02:16:33
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1826 austria has completed the apollo program


1830 boudicca has completed the apollo program


1838 pacal has completed the apollo program
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#858110 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 02:17:35
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all my boosters are in production, cockpit in production
was very light on top end of the tech tree because its shit, so just now realized im still 5 techs back from the last spaceship part, and i have no research agreements pending
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#858111 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 02:19:38
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austria has now annexed nearly all the citystates on the map, and just conquered the aztec capital
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#858112 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 02:38:33
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1826 austria has completed the apollo program


1830 boudicca has completed the apollo program


1838 pacal has completed the apollo program


1864 wu zetian has completed the apollo program

1864 all 3 of my boosters, cockpit, and stasis are completed and added
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#858113 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 02:40:44
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your agent brutus discovered and killed an austrian spy trying to steal technology in rome

aww yiss, brutus


your spy special agent brutus killed an austrian spy in rome while they were trying to steal a technology

get some
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#858114 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 03:17:27
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3 turns to rome building the engine

going to drop 3 nuclear missiles on austria right before launch
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#858115 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 03:18:54
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1901 ad update, china just built their engine and last booster in the same turn
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#858116 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 03:20:19
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nothing amazes me more than how these games always end up with the first loser being only 5 turns or less behind the victory
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#858119 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 05:23:17
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I just played a game that lasted like 14 hours wtf

i have no clue what i'm doing, but won in 2048 or whatever.
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#858120 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 08:36:31
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awesome play by play on the rome game
was that immortal?
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#858124 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 09:32:12
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awesome play by play on the rome game
was that immortal?


ya
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#858125 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 09:34:04
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I just played a game that lasted like 14 hours wtf

i have no clue what i'm doing, but won in 2048 or whatever.


thats a long game, since they end at the year 2050 automatically to whoever has the highest score if you dont disable that

how many enemy ai's were there?
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#858127 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 10:31:32
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playing some huge 12/24 earth immortal rome
have restarted 6 times so far after being 5 turns or less short of g library
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#858128 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 11:09:20
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settle in asia
finally get g lib
early DOF circlejerk with multiple civs
good strategics, good terrain, good ruin finds
start expandan
good sciencan
suddenly, 10000 jaguars appear; montezuma DOW
kill dozens of units
the jaguar waves are endless
killing multiple units every turn
it never ends
rome is conquered before renaissance medieval era
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#858129 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 11:44:19
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 06:23:17)
I just played a game that lasted like 14 hours wtf

i have no clue what i'm doing, but won in 2048 or whatever.


thats a long game, since they end at the year 2050 automatically to whoever has the highest score if you dont disable that

how many enemy ai's were there?


Ah maybe it just ended then.

There was England, Mongolia, China, Egypt, the Middle East (whomever gets Mecca)

I spend almost all of the BC time up until 1070 fending off Chinese and Egyptian invasion. Then built up a huge arsenal, took China down to one city, reversed course and halved Eygpt to get at Hanoi. Course by that point Hanoi ws giving me units so no longer wanted to take them. Took out the rest of Eygypt off my continent (they had another city on the other continent). After being friendly with the Arab nation most of the game they started being dicks so wiped them out. At that point my science trees were sort of lacking, though I was the only unit with any air support. A lot of resource management issues and at the end I think I just had too many cities to deal with (kept annexing)

I did love how they'd be getting their asses handed to them and when they would want to surrender they still wanted consessions from me.
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#858130 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 11:49:25
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puppet them cities, maybe annex their capital but puppet them cities
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#858131 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 12:12:58
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Quote (___ @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 11:09:20)
settle in asia
finally get g lib
early DOF circlejerk with multiple civs
good strategics, good terrain, good ruin finds
start expandan
good sciencan
suddenly, 10000 jaguars appear; montezuma DOW
kill dozens of units
the jaguar waves are endless
killing multiple units every turn
it never ends
rome is conquered before renaissance medieval era


new game, going decently
on south america, only 1 other civ with me
trade off all my strats to keep her gold starved
she conquers 1 of the 2 city states
decide its time for legion
0 fucking iron on the entire continent
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Quote (___ @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 11:09:20)
settle in asia
finally get g lib
early DOF circlejerk with multiple civs
good strategics, good terrain, good ruin finds
start expandan
good sciencan
suddenly, 10000 jaguars appear; montezuma DOW
kill dozens of units
the jaguar waves are endless
killing multiple units every turn
it never ends
rome is conquered before renaissance medieval era


new game, going decently
on south america, only 1 other civ with me
trade off all my strats to keep her gold starved
she conquers 1 of the 2 city states
decide its time for legion
0 fucking iron on the entire continent


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#858133 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 12:20:06
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didos pointy stick: 3rd / 12
my pointy stick, with about 10 military units: 12th / 12
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#858137 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 13:05:56
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get hagia sophia
religions that can be founded: 0
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#858138 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 13:14:40
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Quote (___ @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 11:31:32)
playing some huge 12/24 earth immortal rome
have restarted 6 times so far after being 5 turns or less short of g library


overrated, i found success with expanding and teching to whatever will allow me to harvest the 1-2 luxuries i need to stay happy while expanding
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#858139 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 13:16:47
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 12:44:19)
Quote (randomtask @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 09:34:04)
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 06:23:17)
I just played a game that lasted like 14 hours wtf

i have no clue what i'm doing, but won in 2048 or whatever.


thats a long game, since they end at the year 2050 automatically to whoever has the highest score if you dont disable that

how many enemy ai's were there?


Ah maybe it just ended then.

There was England, Mongolia, China, Egypt, the Middle East (whomever gets Mecca)

I spend almost all of the BC time up until 1070 fending off Chinese and Egyptian invasion. Then built up a huge arsenal, took China down to one city, reversed course and halved Eygpt to get at Hanoi. Course by that point Hanoi ws giving me units so no longer wanted to take them. Took out the rest of Eygypt off my continent (they had another city on the other continent). After being friendly with the Arab nation most of the game they started being dicks so wiped them out. At that point my science trees were sort of lacking, though I was the only unit with any air support. A lot of resource management issues and at the end I think I just had too many cities to deal with (kept annexing)

I did love how they'd be getting their asses handed to them and when they would want to surrender they still wanted consessions from me.


real impressive to get that far on your first game though, there is so many intricacies to civ that you learn more every game you play, im still getting way better every game because theres more you are attentive to
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#858141 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 13:40:34
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no matter how many times i replay dido DOW on me this game -- rather during, 10 turns before, or 20 turns before, i cant withstand the never ending waves of troops

i cant even imagine how its possible to win on diety
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#858142 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 13:42:13
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Quote (___ @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 11:31:32)
playing some huge 12/24 earth immortal rome
have restarted 6 times so far after being 5 turns or less short of g library


overrated, i found success with expanding and teching to whatever will allow me to harvest the 1-2 luxuries i need to stay happy while expanding


i can expand, tech, and feel very efficient
and then 1 civ decides to DOW and their wave of military units are infinite
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Quote (randomtask @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 13:14:40)
Quote (___ @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 11:31:32)
playing some huge 12/24 earth immortal rome
have restarted 6 times so far after being 5 turns or less short of g library


overrated, i found success with expanding and teching to whatever will allow me to harvest the 1-2 luxuries i need to stay happy while expanding


i can expand, tech, and feel very efficient
and then 1 civ decides to DOW and their wave of military units are infinite


terrain is a huge deal
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#858148 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 14:45:45
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gonna play another huge earth map on immortal, to try out some different civs i havent played yet
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#858149 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 15:14:09
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gonna play a multiplayer game with you
why dont you go ahead and disconnect on the 1st turn
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#858150 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 15:22:37
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gonna play a multiplayer game with you
why dont you go ahead and disconnect on the 1st turn


moved my warrior, accidentally hit something on keyboard and league of legends started trying to launch, then wifi took a shit, donno
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#858153 | Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 15:48:12
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Quote (___ @ Sun - Dec 9 2012 - 16:14:09)
gonna play a multiplayer game with you
why dont you go ahead and disconnect on the 1st turn


moved my warrior, accidentally hit something on keyboard and league of legends started trying to launch, then wifi took a shit, donno


bye
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#858434 | Fri - Dec 14 2012 - 19:28:41
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I have achieved both science and domination victories at this point.

Latest game wanted a culture vic.

I find old faithful, found a city near it but one square off from it being in my 2nd city.

City-State expands to get it first.

So I spend 1000 years attacking them until I get it.

Mongolia then says hey, let's attack the Turks. I do most of the fighting, Turks give me 3 cities to bugger off.

Then Greece, Russia, Mongolia, and India all tell me to fuck off and go to war with me. Germany just keeps insulting me.

I keep taking cities and expanding because the assholes won't make peace.

Finally Russia and Greece are like "my bad".

Mongolia continues to be but raped, and Ghandi, after spending every unit it had to invade a shitty state I almost wished they would take, gives up too once I connect my nation to it.

Yeah, no culture vic coming here.

I don't know opitmal paths and the like to go yet, but at least I have the mechanics down. Not trying any super hard difficulties yet.
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#858438 | Fri - Dec 14 2012 - 20:05:36
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Quote (sardoniclysane @ Fri - Dec 14 2012 - 20:28:41)
I have achieved both science and domination victories at this point.

Latest game wanted a culture vic.

I find old faithful, found a city near it but one square off from it being in my 2nd city.

City-State expands to get it first.

So I spend 1000 years attacking them until I get it.

Mongolia then says hey, let's attack the Turks. I do most of the fighting, Turks give me 3 cities to bugger off.

Then Greece, Russia, Mongolia, and India all tell me to fuck off and go to war with me. Germany just keeps insulting me.

I keep taking cities and expanding because the assholes won't make peace.

Finally Russia and Greece are like "my bad".

Mongolia continues to be but raped, and Ghandi, after spending every unit it had to invade a shitty state I almost wished they would take, gives up too once I connect my nation to it.

Yeah, no culture vic coming here.

I don't know opitmal paths and the like to go yet, but at least I have the mechanics down. Not trying any super hard difficulties yet.


optimal victory type is mostly influenced by your civ, your enemies civs, map size and type, and number of opponents. not so much in-game happenings (well yes, but the in-game happenings are forseen by the game conditions once you understand them)
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#858439 | Fri - Dec 14 2012 - 20:11:51
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I have achieved both science and domination victories at this point.

Latest game wanted a culture vic.

I find old faithful, found a city near it but one square off from it being in my 2nd city.

City-State expands to get it first.

So I spend 1000 years attacking them until I get it.

Mongolia then says hey, let's attack the Turks. I do most of the fighting, Turks give me 3 cities to bugger off.

Then Greece, Russia, Mongolia, and India all tell me to fuck off and go to war with me. Germany just keeps insulting me.

I keep taking cities and expanding because the assholes won't make peace.

Finally Russia and Greece are like "my bad".

Mongolia continues to be but raped, and Ghandi, after spending every unit it had to invade a shitty state I almost wished they would take, gives up too once I connect my nation to it.

Yeah, no culture vic coming here.

I don't know opitmal paths and the like to go yet, but at least I have the mechanics down. Not trying any super hard difficulties yet.


optimal victory type is mostly influenced by your civ, your enemies civs, map size and type, and number of opponents. not so much in-game happenings (well yes, but the in-game happenings are forseen by the game conditions once you understand them)


thats why i think multiplayer and team games are more interesting, is that its not such a clear-cut strategy that you have to play by, and its more about adapting
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