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#159488 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 17:43:44
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http://forums.hellgatelondon.com/showthrea...?t=70138&page=4

pretty good thread, with a few posts by scapes
 
#159490 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 17:44:56
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Been playing for 2 hours and I've only found 2 beast essense. :\
 
#159492 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 17:45:15
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And solo'ing The Wild and the further instances is fucking hard.
 
#159494 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 17:46:53
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awesome fucking drops from the wild though 3 essences here in about 20 mins hehe

more luck = more epics = essences

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#159496 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 17:47:33
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Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 22 2008 - 17:46:53)
awesome fucking drops from the wild though 3 essences here in about 20 mins hehe

more luck = more epics = essences

No.
 
#159499 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 17:52:30
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The way winged imps fly into the map is epic.

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#159500 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 17:52:34
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awesome fucking drops from the wild though 3 essences here in about 20 mins hehe

more luck = more epics = essences

No.

the essences i found all came from epic critters?

how so no?

also someone said shul drops essences?
 
#159515 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 18:12:16
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no = luck and rare/legendary mobs. luck only decreases chance of white items.
 
#159519 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 18:13:59
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awesome fucking drops from the wild though 3 essences here in about 20 mins hehe

more luck = more epics = essences

No.

the essences i found all came from epic critters?

how so no?

also someone said shul drops essences?

No, Errgoth does. Essenses only drop from Stonehenge instances.
 
#159527 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 18:37:31
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Faggotry
 
#159528 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 18:37:33
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i got to go into the thing with the beast essence was pro ofc
 
#159534 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 18:46:02
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also get elite chars up already fuck normal

ps found a subscribe only unique
 
#159537 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 18:48:06
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I want one shot at stone henge then making sce kk
 
#159539 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 18:54:41
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#159540 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 18:56:57
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yea i killed him but i didnt open so no head.

anyway i will play for about a half hour in about 1.5hrs or so
so if you get to moloch pliz wait
 
#159542 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 18:57:45
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oh look, errgoth looks like shulgoth
 
#159546 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 19:17:58
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Quote (randomtask @ Jan 22 2008 - 18:57:45)
oh look, errgoth looks like shulgoth

 
#159552 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 19:28:10
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yea i killed him but i didnt open so no head.

anyway i will play for about a half hour in about 1.5hrs or so
so if you get to moloch pliz wait

Didn't open?
 
#159557 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 19:33:12
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if you dont open the portal you dont get the head
 
#159562 | Tue - Jan 22 2008 - 19:37:13
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Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 22 2008 - 19:33:12)
if you dont open the portal you dont get the head

Oh, I did him solo. :donno:
 
#159898 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 09:16:01
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Quote (Duped @ Jan 22 2008 - 18:13:59)
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awesome fucking drops from the wild though 3 essences here in about 20 mins hehe

more luck = more epics = essences

No.

the essences i found all came from epic critters?

how so no?

also someone said shul drops essences?

No, Errgoth does. Essenses only drop from Stonehenge instances.

the essences drop from any epic/rare/boss monster 15% chance (load up with luck gear and run low lvl areas for farming essences I say!

shulg best for demon
big ben best for beast
necropolis area best for necro
 
#159903 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 09:21:10
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Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 23 2008 - 09:16:01)
Quote (Duped @ Jan 22 2008 - 18:13:59)
Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 22 2008 - 17:52:34)
Quote (Duped @ Jan 22 2008 - 17:47:33)
Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 22 2008 - 17:46:53)
awesome fucking drops from the wild though 3 essences here in about 20 mins hehe

more luck = more epics = essences

No.

the essences i found all came from epic critters?

how so no?

also someone said shul drops essences?

No, Errgoth does. Essenses only drop from Stonehenge instances.

the essences drop from any epic/rare/boss monster 15% chance (load up with luck gear and run low lvl areas for farming essences I say!

shulg best for demon
big ben best for beast
necropolis area best for necro

ploughyard best for specral
 
#159904 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 09:22:42
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Quote (bubbachunk @ Jan 23 2008 - 09:21:10)
Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 23 2008 - 09:16:01)
Quote (Duped @ Jan 22 2008 - 18:13:59)
Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 22 2008 - 17:52:34)
Quote (Duped @ Jan 22 2008 - 17:47:33)
Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 22 2008 - 17:46:53)
awesome fucking drops from the wild though 3 essences here in about 20 mins hehe

more luck = more epics = essences

No.

the essences i found all came from epic critters?

how so no?

also someone said shul drops essences?

No, Errgoth does. Essenses only drop from Stonehenge instances.

the essences drop from any epic/rare/boss monster 15% chance (load up with luck gear and run low lvl areas for farming essences I say!

shulg best for demon
big ben best for beast
necropolis area best for necro

ploughyard best for specral

i need low level areas to farm...shul + big ben = cake

what other 2 areas can i do for nec/spec? temple and lower?
 
#159907 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 09:25:34
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well shit.....spoilers for all below








***SPOILER WARNING***

What follows is a guide to the big fights you'll be facing on the path to Moloch, along with a minor preface on getting into those fights. This post will be updated with additional information as it becomes relevant. This information is provided mainly with the intent of aiding the hardcore players out there to prevent unfortunate incidents of characters being one-shot unexpectedly (of which there are quite a few places where such is possible). Knowing is half the battle. If you wish not to know the secrets of these demons, navigate away from this page with great haste and look upon it no more.

The Essences
So to get access to the caste caves you need 5 of their respective essences. Below is a hardly exhaustive list of places you can go to acquire these essences off of champion (rare/legendary/named) mobs. Each such mob you encounter has a 15% chance of dropping an essence (per Scapes). This one section is the one I see getting updated the most, so let me know where you reliably find your essences:

Beast
St. Paul's Hellgate (Apocalypse Walkers)
Hell (Rash, Despair(?))
Ploughyard
Upper/Lower Kingsway Sewers

Demon
St. Paul's Hellgate
Hell
Ploughyard
Shulgoth

Necro
Necropolis
Tunnels/Access Ducts

Spectral
The Downed Exospecter
Ploughyard

The Caste Caves
Once you have your 5 essences of the desired caste (or 5 of all four), you can proceed into Wake Hallow and start unlocking the caste caves. The one person holding all 5 essences is the one that does the unlocking by clicking on the torch next to a locked portal. This will mark them as the one to receive the head of that cave's boss when it is killed. Speaking of cave bosses, here's a brief rundown of what to expect for each caste:

Beast - Ash
Archetype: Leviathan Fiend
Attacks: Napalm Run, Fireball
Strategy: Strafe out of the way when Ash flies at you to avoid getting hit by the napalm stream. Melee classes will have more difficulty with this boss as it does not engage in melee attacks

Demon - Errgoth
Archetype: Shulgoth
Attacks: Mack Truck strike, Orbs of Death
Strategy: Fights like Shulgoth, hits harder, and when he performs his breath attack he releases purple orbs of pain (take a volley from Syd and condense it into a few orbs).

Necro - Oriax
Archetype: Zombie Summoner
Attacks: Glimmering AoE strike?, Summon Gutgore
Strategy: Handle it like you would any other summoner--it can't summon when it's dead. The issue is dealing with 8 gutgores either smashing your face or launching spiked explosives at you. Handle with care and keep moving.

Spectral - The Nicor
Archetype: Tortured Soul
Attacks: Warping
Strategy: This particular boss is also surrounded by similar tortured souls, so if you stroll around a corner (if you could call anything on that tileset a 'corner') too fast, you'll end up with half a dozen souls warping through you. The boss in particular does far greater damage than its entourage, so tread carefully and pick off the group slowly if possible.

Moloch's Step and The Necro Fall
This is where things change up. Like the beast tileset, Moloch's Step is outdoors, and you are faced with every caste along with winged demons flying in for added enjoyment. Getting through this area is straightforward enough if you've been clearing Wake Hallow. Once you get to The Necro Fall, take a moment to take in the massiveness that is Moloch's Lair (take necropolis and make it one multi-level area). This single area is the one point at which I have to take pause and wonder whether or not I should ruin any surprises for those who have not yet seen it for themselves. Regardless, I shall continue. After clearing through The Necro Fall you are finally faced with Moloch himself, which I won't go into too much detail about.

Demon Overlord - Moloch
Archetype: Pit Baron
Attacks: Tail Swipe (a la cinematic), Fireball
Strategy: Protip: Avoid the demon's attacks to avoid dying.

And since this post is just one big spoiler anyway, I might as well include this inspirational piece to motivate you into getting there:
 
#159926 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 10:03:06
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btw gotta stick to my guns and no hgl during the week sorry m8s :(
 
#159943 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 10:32:30
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For those wondering, there is a 15% drop rate for essences from any rare, legendary, or boss monster.

Any caste.
-- Scapes
 
#159950 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 10:35:49
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Quote (blind_chief @ Jan 23 2008 - 10:32:30)
For those wondering, there is a 15% drop rate for essences from any rare, legendary, or boss monster.

Any caste.
-- Scapes

Quote (deadhxc from a few posts up)
the essences drop from any epic/rare/boss monster 15% chance (load up with luck gear and run low lvl areas for farming essences I say!


thanks captain obvious
 
#159957 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 11:32:43
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Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 23 2008 - 07:35:49)
Quote (blind_chief @ Jan 23 2008 - 10:32:30)
For those wondering, there is a 15% drop rate for essences from any rare, legendary, or boss monster.

Any caste.
-- Scapes

Quote (deadhxc from a few posts up)
the essences drop from any epic/rare/boss monster 15% chance (load up with luck gear and run low lvl areas for farming essences I say!


thanks captain obvious

I did not read a single word after **Spoiler**
 
#159958 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 11:35:02
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Quote (blind_chief @ Jan 23 2008 - 11:32:43)
Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 23 2008 - 07:35:49)
Quote (blind_chief @ Jan 23 2008 - 10:32:30)
For those wondering, there is a 15% drop rate for essences from any rare, legendary, or boss monster.

Any caste.
-- Scapes

Quote (deadhxc from a few posts up)
the essences drop from any epic/rare/boss monster 15% chance (load up with luck gear and run low lvl areas for farming essences I say!


thanks captain obvious

I did not read a single word after **Spoiler**

actually it was around the 20th post down well before the spoiler post ;)
 
#159959 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 11:41:39
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I found a fair bit questing through temple station and monument, but its elite so meni more packs of legendaries and rare monsters
 
#159966 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 11:51:04
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Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 23 2008 - 08:35:02)
Quote (blind_chief @ Jan 23 2008 - 11:32:43)
Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 23 2008 - 07:35:49)
Quote (blind_chief @ Jan 23 2008 - 10:32:30)
For those wondering, there is a 15% drop rate for essences from any rare, legendary, or boss monster.

Any caste.
-- Scapes

Quote (deadhxc from a few posts up)
the essences drop from any epic/rare/boss monster 15% chance (load up with luck gear and run low lvl areas for farming essences I say!


thanks captain obvious

I did not read a single word after **Spoiler**

actually it was around the 20th post down well before the spoiler post ;)

have I told you to fuck yourself yet today :hats:
 
#159973 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 11:53:12
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no but the wife has so you are good.

 
#159978 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 11:58:20
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Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 23 2008 - 08:53:12)
no but the wife has so you are good.

maybe she will get on vent then :)


also, found this interesting:
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Okay... For all of you that think this is going to be a LOOONNGGG grind and not worth it, let me tell you how we (Xen of Onslaught) did it from beginning to end in about 3.5 hours...

First off, we had five people with us at all times.  First, we went through both areas and checked them out.  Between all of us, we got nearly half of ALL the orbs we needed and that took us just over an hour or so.

We broke for a rest and a couple of the members went to some of the regular quests and beat a few rares/epics and got the rest of the orbs - about 1 hour

we got together and went to all four caste bosses back to back.  Scapes is correct, only the person that unlocked each cave actually got the head when they are killed.  I can say that in each cave, there are a LOT of rares/epics and they too drop a HELL of a lot of orbs, so the next time you are wanting to come back, its pretty much open for each one of you.  This whole part took just under an hour, prolly about 45 minutes.

We then broke for about 10 minutes and then went to Molochi's portal area.  This area is only opened by the ONE person that has all four heads.  And yes, everyone that is in the party with that person got to go.  This area is broken down into three areas, with the final area being one large "arena".  We pressed on hard here and got through rather quickly (except for this one area that had the MOST amount of ghoul lords I have EVER seen!!)

Then, we got to Molochi and lit his *** up.!!

I can say that I got one unique, two legendaries, and the rest rares.  It was the best haul that I have ever gotten so far... One of my legendaries had +1 to ALL skills!!

Basically, it can be done quickly and it was quite fun to go through it all.  The best part is that its not a quest that has any ending, as it can be done over and over again...


 
#160039 | Wed - Jan 23 2008 - 14:39:30
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Quote (blind_chief @ Jan 23 2008 - 08:58:20)
Quote (deadhXc @ Jan 23 2008 - 08:53:12)
no but the wife has so you are good.

maybe she will get on vent then :)

bump
 
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I got got myself through all the tests alone last night, so I'll have essences for Moloch runs.
 
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I got got myself through all the tests alone last night, so I'll have essences for Moloch runs.

sweet
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