mcgwire lol

Same

this is not news

inorite

oh you

Ploy to get into the Hall of Fame.

Anybody see the interview? ahhahahaha
"I only took a little"

i'm partial to the part where he claims it was just to recover from injury and it did not benefit him in any other way

I'm partially smelling bullshit when he goes from:

To:


Just about an 800 lb difference.

Even if it only helped him get on the field (not saying that's all it did, but whatever) he had to BE on the field in the first place to hit home runs. You don't hit HR's by being on the DL....so by extension the 'Roids helped him hit HR's.

I will say he had power all along though, I mean his 49 HR's his first year isn't exactly shabby.

Let's be realistic here too; we love steroids. We may not talk about it, but we truly love seeing bigger, stronger, faster, and more agile players. We love watching things that seem neigh impossible for the average person to do. There's immense pressure on these guys to perform, and acting like Baseball was somehow going to wind up different than the other major sports was just plain silly. I may be a traditionalist when it comes to baseball, but I'm also a realist. Steroids make you better, there's no debating that. The debate always begins at "what cost does it do these things for" and of course the whole "it's cheating" debate.

Look, I'd much rather have Firefighters and Police, hell military men on something. It just makes them better at what they're trying to do, which is save lives, and/or make the world a little safer.

/end soapbox.

i'm not convinced it's worth the increased risk of getting cancer. if someone can't play right, may as well gtfo. however, if some sports want to allow steroids, it's up to them to make it official and to put everyone on a lelvel playing field.

i'm not convinced it's worth the increased risk of getting cancer. if someone can't play right, may as well gtfo. however, if some sports want to allow steroids, it's up to them to make it official and to put everyone on a level playing field.

didn't mean to double-post ofc

when roids are otc, i can see letting them in sports. but as long as you need a dr's note i dont see how it can be up to the sport, ya know

ask that doucheback LB who died how steroids worked for him

that's part of my point, but imo if they were otc, the world would be going to hell in a handbasket. but sports prescription is entriely possible--it's pretty much what happens in some cases anyway. i know some guys who have (unethical) steroid prescriptions. my wife actually avoids filling prescriptions like that. she'll call the dr and ask for an explanation. but in the end, ppl who wants steroids tend to get them--either by prescription or by illegal means.

i prefer roids getting x'd since the CONs outweigh the PROs.

agreed, i just mean that people use that as a defense, that there was no law saying to not use them, and ive always thought it was a garbage when their excuse was that. never mind prescriptions or w/e. and my stepmom would do the same (pharmacist ofc)

tldr

true--the list of excuses for taking/allowing steroids is almost comical. i know a couple trainers who take them so they "look the part". i try tio tell them that to look the part they should be healthy, not full of shit. that doesn't always go over well ofc.

Care to share?

They do? News to me. I think that's how the media portrays them. Which is unfortunate. They are less carcinogenic than current "legal" drugs such as oh, alcohol and tobacco for starters. Should those be illegal? Aspartame causes cancer, should that be illegal? They're now linking cellphone usage to an increase in cancer. I suppose we need to get rid of them as well.

Did you know that scientifically speaking, cholesterol is a steroid? BAN IT. BAN IT NOW!. Oh wait, that'll be almost impossible to do, since you know, it's in just about everything, even in trace amounts.

Do people even bother doing research anymore before making up an opinion?

I'd imagine not, since you don't seem to know what you're talking about exactly.

“
Try having your knees operated on and catching for 30 years. Do you think you feel good when you go out there? [McGwire] had to stand around and play first base. So excuuuuuse me.
”
-- Hall of Fame catcher Carlton Fisk

fisk was one of me 3 boyhood heros from baseball

Mine too. I still don't think he gets the credit he deserves.

Also, speaking of people with immense talent that couldn't stay on the field, Eric Davis. People tend to forget before Canseco (with steroids) became baseballs first 40/40 man, Davis was on the cusp of being Baseballs first 40/50 man. He wound up falling just short, and I'm pretty sure he never played a complete season of baseball. After several injuries and I think a bout with Cancer, he had to call it quits. Didn't he win like two comeback player of the year awards?

he wasnt mine but he was damn good

i respect good catchers with long careers

I laughed so hard whenever I hear him talk on ESPN.

But yeah he was pretty damn talented.

The best ever was the commercials ESPN did with him and Straberry when they first went to LA together.

Eric and Daryl are in your face!

Yeah, that worked out great.