moss

im 40, my team is desperate, by week 10 no one will care

im also 40, bitter, and at work jealox

9-7

11-5, make playoffs

win

chances of 11-5? .000001

too early to tell but if you've ever seen moss in summer training, you'll believe that he can take a team deep into the playoffs. the vikings aren't a "dream team" but if they can be consistent they can make the playoffs and compete. in terms of single player acquisitions, this is as big as it gets.

rew drank the koolaid

just gonna take a jog down the field and leave a sprinting defender behind. will make one-handed catch and make it look easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUeWoDHtNTE

i think moss is a difference maker because of his talent and experience, but also because he doesn't accept mediocre efforts from anyone. i don't think he's the best guy in the world or even coach material, but he can change the culture of a team. he just needs to avoid being a suck. favre has that problem, too. i moss he can change an 9-7 type team into an 11-5 team. for one thing, a defensive unit can't ignore him. he requires more than two eyes on him at all times, and he always requires a body nearby. that changes how a defense will set up, what he will expect, and what he can do on the field--it affects the whole secondary. this can give the vikings' defense more time to rest (on avg). nvm the fact that he might chew them out in practice if they don't compete. and he's a danger to score at any given time.

all just imho.

also this is epic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ra1mG55XE

i dont question moss
i question the 97 year old man who doesnt even look like he wants to play, who looks like every movement is incredibly painful, who takes about 5 seconds to pick his old ass off the ground after every hit

throw in the towel

FARVE

PHAVRMACY

Oxy & Roxy

going to be stellar

>20 yards of offense by my lolbears in a half and i talk shit about other teams offenses

if you've ever seen him in the playoffs you know he can't take a team deep

i do love the hype farve gets, even as a washed up old man

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=300110017

nice job monday

would have beat your team by 11, sup

despite his addiction to pain killers and crying like a bitch at every opportunity, favre is actually mentally tough because he has a strange edge and he knows how to compete, and also how to suck other people into competing. he is past his prime, but his experience, leadership and skill level still translate into a dangerous offensive setting.

adding this for fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AduLRhKSh78&feature=related

and this is for bonus fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEvGUD7BPMQ

this guy is made at the vikings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNxFk43m_YM&feature=related

is favre still playing to make it take longer for peyton manning to have all of the passing records?

rewtheinfomercial

don't blame moss, he was top dog receiver in that game

hey guys, have you seen my highlight film from the 90s?
man i was so good

Moss would be good... if he could run routes and block downfield.

At least now he can run a streak route every down and Favre's 15 yd INTs can be 35+ yd INTs. It's like punting on 1st down!

Vikings need him

fantasy bench

Posting to remind myself to look back on this thread and LOLOLOLOLOL at the end of the season for the haters. I'm a Browns fan and even I can see this is a big deal.

is success making the playoffs? losing first round? is success only defined with a sb trip? please quantify what the ohh so good vikings are now so you cant just come back later and lolol at the haters no matter the outcome

/9-7

ohh, and the pats are still better than the vikings. qb-driven league and all.

For starters, you're deluded if you think they're going 9-7. By the way, can't wait to see what Collins does this week.

why am i deluded? because a 40 year old qb who has nothing in the tank is gonna take them to the promise land? lol
glad you drank the kooaid too

did he die yet?

and way to dodge defining exactly how fucking amazing they are going to be with terrible evading tactics using our backup qb

Anyone would look pedestrian if their top receivers were bye bye, except for Manning, and maybe Brady. Quit raging.

im not raging, but you are presenting a fail argument where you dont actually say how good you think they will be in the hopes that after the season you can say "i told you so" no matter what their record.

nice ___

How have I dodged? You think 9-7, I clearly think better. When they are better than that, I will have an ez I told you so. I can't help it if you can't follow the conversation.

Also, why is everyone quiet on vent?

what conversation? you aint said shit. but gz on being a man and making a prediction. you fail.

They'll still win games because they have a great o-line, the top (maybe 2) running back in the nfl, and a good defense.

Either way, Randy Moss will not be one of the 5 most important people on this team.

What team has Moss been a leader on exactly?
He doesn't accept mediocre efforts from anybody? Usually hes the one being questioned for giving a mediocre effort.

my idea is that he by lifting a team up through his actions. i don't think he has a great personality or that he's a true leader by example, like say a guy like hershel walker was in his day. i think he has a very high standard, and a guy like that is going to cut people up for not giving their best in practice and in games. i don't question his effort, but i could see him reserving himself for certain plays. he's not a guy who wants to throw blocks (protecting himself ofc), but he is a guy who will make big plays (cheer up his team) and completely piss off the opposition. i think he's the best all-time receiver when it comes to pushing off, which is something every player in the secondary hates. he has a good vert, good speed, a strong, tall body, he's very tough, and he has good hands. i think his effort is more consistent than people may suggest, although he is a guy who will play a little worse if he's sucking about something. that's not uncommon with great athletes. not everyone is a machine like kobe bryant.

all a guy like moss does is show younger players that if you are really good you dont have to work hard and play hard every day or down

the flip side is that if people younger players work hard enough to be as good as randy moss (just like he did), then taking a few plays off wouldn't hurt. i still don't think he's a huge slacker though. maybe vince carter would be that kind of guy if he was in the nfl ... oh wait, vince carter is afraid of contact.

while i appreciate the vince carter humor i dont believe players get reputations for nothing

not gonna lie moss is gonna make life easy on AP