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all a guy like moss does is show younger players that if you are really good you dont have to work hard and play hard every day or down
the flip side is that if people younger players work hard enough to be as good as randy moss (just like he did), then taking a few plays off wouldn't hurt. i still don't think he's a huge slacker though. maybe vince carter would be that kind of guy if he was in the nfl ... oh wait, vince carter is afraid of contact.
while i appreciate the vince carter humor i dont believe players get reputations for nothing
i do. don't get me wrong, moss takes plays off and he is a suck at times (and plays like he's a suck at times), but overall, i think he's probably one of the hardest working wide receivers in the game. one of the big reasons why the nfl media started to hate moss has to do with his departure from the vikings (to the raiders). everyone was bitter. he did have a crappy attitude, which fueled further criticism. but i think the criticisms were too harsh--especially those about his game, and secondarily those about his overall effort.
it's hard to see how he can both be a slacker and work as hard as he's worked to get where he is as an athlete. he has physical gifts but he came out of poverty and adversity and desperately wanted to make something of himself on the field. he couldn't get anywhere without hard work. gonna copy/paste this wall as a testimony to the fact that he must've put some effort into his game at some point:
Career highlights
* 4-time All-Pro selection.[73]
* Is second on the Minnesota Vikings all-time receiving touchdown list with 90. Cris Carter holds the record with 110 receiving scores.
* Caught his 100th touchdown pass in 2006 against San Francisco (on a pass he caught with his legs), the seventh player to do so.
* Holds the record for most touchdowns in Minnesota Vikings playoff history with 8.
* 10 1,000+ yard receiving seasons - 2nd all-time
* 64 career 100 yard games - 2nd all-time; most recent November 15, 2009
* 151 touchdown receptions - 2nd all-time
* 77.7 receiving yards per game - 2nd all-time
* 152 total touchdowns scored - 4th all-time
* 14,604 receiving yards - 6th all-time
* 935 career receptions - 10th all-time
* Has completed 4 of 8 passes for 106 yards and 2 touchdowns, with 1 interception, giving him a 95.8 passer rating.
* Only player to catch 90+ touchdown passes, return a punt for a touchdown, and throw 2 touchdown passes.
* Has played on the two highest scoring teams (for a single season) in NFL history: 2007 Patriots (589 points) and the 1998 Vikings (556 points)
* Had a career-high 12 receptions for 204 yards against the Chicago Bears, at Soldier Field, on November 14, 1999 in a 27-24 overtime win.
* Holds the Vikings record for most 100 yard receiving games with 41.
* Has two touchdowns or more in 39 different games (including 3 in the postseason); most recent September 26, 2010
* Has two touchdown receptions or more in 37 different games - (2nd all-time)
* Has three touchdowns touchdown receptions or more in 9 different games - (2nd all-time): at Dallas (Nov. 26, 1998), a 46–36 victory; vs. Chicago (Dec. 6, 1998), a 48–22 victory; at Detroit (Oct. 1, 2000), a 31-24 victory; vs. New York Giants (November 19, 2001) a 28-16 victory; vs. San Francisco (Sep. 28, 2003), a 35–7 victory; at Buffalo (November 18, 2007), a 56–10 victory; at Miami (November 23, 2008), a 48–28 victory; vs. Tennessee (October 18, 2009), a 59–0 victory; vs. Jacksonville (December 27, 2009), a 35–7 victory.
* Caught a career high four touchdowns at Buffalo (all in the first half). (Nov. 18, 2007)
* Had an interception while playing defense in the last few seconds of the first half of the Patriots' game against the Denver Broncos on October 11, 2009.
* Has 4 career two-point conversions
* Youngest player in NFL history to record his 120th receiving touchdown. (30 years, 313 days)
