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#795293 | Fri - May 13 2011 - 22:00:42
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RIP Derek Boogaard 1982-2011
Expected to return before Sidney Crosby
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#795521 | Sun - May 15 2011 - 23:33:30
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lol
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#795541 | Mon - May 16 2011 - 00:44:57
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Quote (Zodijackyl @ Fri - May 13 2011 - 22:00:42)
RIP Derek Boogaard 1982-2011
Expected to return before Sidney Crosby


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#795557 | Mon - May 16 2011 - 07:02:41
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Quote (MoS. @ Sun - May 15 2011 - 22:44:57)
Quote (Zodijackyl @ Fri - May 13 2011 - 22:00:42)
RIP Derek Boogaard 1982-2011
Expected to return before Sidney Crosby


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#796016 | Fri - May 20 2011 - 18:16:45
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his family confirmed that it was an overdose of alcohol and oxycodone :(
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#796019 | Fri - May 20 2011 - 18:54:10
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overstimulation of the GABA-A receptor, OOPS
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#796045 | Fri - May 20 2011 - 23:17:36
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Quote (Sgull @ Fri - May 20 2011 - 18:54:10)
overstimulation of the GABA-A receptor, OOPS


lolololololol
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#796077 | Sat - May 21 2011 - 21:59:19
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Quote (Zodijackyl @ Fri - May 20 2011 - 19:16:45)
his family confirmed that it was an overdose of alcohol and oxycodone :(


alcohol is still cool though, no worries
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#796080 | Sat - May 21 2011 - 22:33:09
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Quote (Du$tin @ Sat - May 21 2011 - 19:59:19)
Quote (Zodijackyl @ Fri - May 20 2011 - 19:16:45)
his family confirmed that it was an overdose of alcohol and oxycodone :(


alcohol is still cool though, no worries


anyone who drinks alcohol will die
the abuse of pills plays no part
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#796102 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 10:41:38
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Quote (Du$tin @ Sat - May 21 2011 - 21:59:19)
Quote (Zodijackyl @ Fri - May 20 2011 - 19:16:45)
his family confirmed that it was an overdose of alcohol and oxycodone :(


alcohol is still cool though, no worries


ignorance

the over-indulgence of anything can lead to death

being so close minded will keep you from many great experiences
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#796107 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 10:45:51
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and the alcoholics scramble to defend him :)
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#796115 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 11:00:25
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Quote (Du$tin @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 10:45:51)
and the alcoholics scramble to defend him :)


???

I am not condoning what he did,mixing drugs in excess is generally a bad idea

The point is that just because one person abuses a particular thing does not automatically make it bad
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#796121 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 12:24:58
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Quote (Du$tin @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 08:45:51)
and the alcoholics scramble to defend him :)


thats the nick approach
anything said somehow confirms your comment
and i dont even care that you are some straight-edged kid, its akin to being a religious nut
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#796126 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 13:48:08
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Quote (bubbachunk @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 12:00:25)
Quote (Du$tin @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 10:45:51)
and the alcoholics scramble to defend him :)


???

I am not condoning what he did,mixing drugs in excess is generally a bad idea

The point is that just because one person abuses a particular thing does not automatically make it bad


True this is the first time someone has died from an alcohol-related incident.
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#796130 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 14:25:31
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Quote (Du$tin @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 11:48:08)
Quote (bubbachunk @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 12:00:25)
Quote (Du$tin @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 10:45:51)
and the alcoholics scramble to defend him :)


???

I am not condoning what he did,mixing drugs in excess is generally a bad idea

The point is that just because one person abuses a particular thing does not automatically make it bad


True this is the first time someone has died from an alcohol-related incident.


pills are worse
actually, pills are fucking stupid
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#796132 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 14:40:24
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 15:25:31)
Quote (Du$tin @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 11:48:08)
Quote (bubbachunk @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 12:00:25)
Quote (Du$tin @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 10:45:51)
and the alcoholics scramble to defend him :)


???

I am not condoning what he did,mixing drugs in excess is generally a bad idea

The point is that just because one person abuses a particular thing does not automatically make it bad


True this is the first time someone has died from an alcohol-related incident.


pills are worse
actually, pills are fucking stupid


no argument here
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#796133 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 14:42:07
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Quote (Du$tin @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 13:48:08)
Quote (bubbachunk @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 12:00:25)
Quote (Du$tin @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 10:45:51)
and the alcoholics scramble to defend him :)


???

I am not condoning what he did,mixing drugs in excess is generally a bad idea

The point is that just because one person abuses a particular thing does not automatically make it bad


True this is the first time someone has died from an alcohol-related incident.


Yep and you should only look at the extreme consequences of a particular action when making a decision for yourself. Dont pay attention to the millions of people who drink on any given day without even getting so much as a hangover.
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#796134 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 15:03:12
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - May 21 2011 - 22:33:09)
Quote (Du$tin @ Sat - May 21 2011 - 19:59:19)
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his family confirmed that it was an overdose of alcohol and oxycodone :(


alcohol is still cool though, no worries


anyone who drinks alcohol will die
the abuse of pills plays no part


actually in this case it really does. oxycodone is a potent respiratory depressant. alcohol is only minor in that field, but potentiates the effects from the oxycodone. Breathing rate slows, slows, slows, and at some point just stops. Had he just drank that night and not taken the pills, he would have likely been fine (assuming he didnt way overdo the drinking) and likewise with the pills.

Now to understand why this is important is to understand why we breathe. #1 misconception of the process of breathing is that we breathe because we need oxygen. While this is true in some regards, the actual mechanism of breathing has nothing to do with oxygen. The intake of oxygen is a "side effect" of breathing. Humans actually breathe because of a drop in pH in the blood caused by accumulation of carbon dioxide in the bodys circuitry. CO2 is not an acid, but in solution with water turns into carbonic acid (H2CO3), hence lowering of the body's pH. This change of pH is picked up in the brain, which stimulates more effective breathing (more breathing is more exhaling, more CO2 burned off). oxycodone increases the ceiling threshold of the brain's pH sensor (resulting in greater allowed fluctuation of pH in blood). blood pH should be around 7.4, and marked effects on the body can start occuring as early as 7.2

tldr -> anyone who mixes any sedative with alcohol is an idiot and probably will die from it (includes steve).

PPS to tldr: over time the receptors develop tolerance to deliver the sedative effect while not changing the tolerance for blood pH monitoring. assuming prescription strength of a medication doesnt change for the abuser, that means they will likely over time require more beer to achieve the same effect of whatever it was they were looking for, but each time increasing the amount of respiratory depression and chance to not wake up.
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#796135 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 15:12:18
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cant tell if gull missed my sarcasm
:donno:
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#796137 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 15:47:43
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 12:12:18)
cant tell if gull missed my sarcasm
:donno:


he just wants to validate his schooling, ya dig
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#796140 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 16:19:36
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so if i take nyquil to go sleepy time after having a beer, i will wake up dead?
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#796141 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 16:21:11
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wake up dead, YOU DIE
wake up dead, YOU DIE
WAKE UP DEAAAAAD
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#796142 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 16:24:30
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can we talk about more important shit like the macho man dying
rip macho man
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#796143 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 16:24:42
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Quote (___ @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 14:24:30)
can we talk about more important shit like the macho man dying
rip macho man


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#796146 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 17:44:11
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Quote (Sgull @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 15:03:12)
Quote (blind_chief @ Sat - May 21 2011 - 22:33:09)
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Quote (Zodijackyl @ Fri - May 20 2011 - 19:16:45)
his family confirmed that it was an overdose of alcohol and oxycodone :(


alcohol is still cool though, no worries


anyone who drinks alcohol will die
the abuse of pills plays no part


actually in this case it really does. oxycodone is a potent respiratory depressant. alcohol is only minor in that field, but potentiates the effects from the oxycodone. Breathing rate slows, slows, slows, and at some point just stops. Had he just drank that night and not taken the pills, he would have likely been fine (assuming he didnt way overdo the drinking) and likewise with the pills.

Now to understand why this is important is to understand why we breathe. #1 misconception of the process of breathing is that we breathe because we need oxygen. While this is true in some regards, the actual mechanism of breathing has nothing to do with oxygen. The intake of oxygen is a "side effect" of breathing. Humans actually breathe because of a drop in pH in the blood caused by accumulation of carbon dioxide in the bodys circuitry. CO2 is not an acid, but in solution with water turns into carbonic acid (H2CO3), hence lowering of the body's pH. This change of pH is picked up in the brain, which stimulates more effective breathing (more breathing is more exhaling, more CO2 burned off). oxycodone increases the ceiling threshold of the brain's pH sensor (resulting in greater allowed fluctuation of pH in blood). blood pH should be around 7.4, and marked effects on the body can start occuring as early as 7.2

tldr -> anyone who mixes any sedative with alcohol is an idiot and probably will die from it (includes steve).

PPS to tldr: over time the receptors develop tolerance to deliver the sedative effect while not changing the tolerance for blood pH monitoring. assuming prescription strength of a medication doesnt change for the abuser, that means they will likely over time require more beer to achieve the same effect of whatever it was they were looking for, but each time increasing the amount of respiratory depression and chance to not wake up.


Gull dropping knowledge. Did that once, not going to do it again.
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#796147 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 17:45:47
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Habitual painkiller abuse by a professional athlete that had a concussion that prevent him from exercising for half a year, sad but not surprising.
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#796148 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 17:46:47
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Quote (Du$tin @ Sat - May 21 2011 - 21:59:19)
Quote (Zodijackyl @ Fri - May 20 2011 - 19:16:45)
his family confirmed that it was an overdose of alcohol and oxycodone :(


alcohol is still cool though, no worries


You're like the people on hockeyfights.com who think it is healthy to get punched in the head because they can't consider anything beyond their preconceived notions, including a grey area.

This post has been edited by Zodijackyl on Sun - May 22 2011 - 17:48:00
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#796165 | Sun - May 22 2011 - 20:14:04
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Quote (Zodijackyl @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 18:46:47)
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his family confirmed that it was an overdose of alcohol and oxycodone :(


alcohol is still cool though, no worries


You're like the people on hockeyfights.com who think it is healthy to get punched in the head because they can't consider anything beyond their preconceived notions, including a grey area.


that made no sense
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#796199 | Mon - May 23 2011 - 02:31:54
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Quote (blind_chief @ Sun - May 22 2011 - 15:12:18)
cant tell if gull missed my sarcasm
:donno:


oh u were being silly
disregard poem haha
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#796203 | Mon - May 23 2011 - 06:38:01
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depending on what the oxy was binding with it's very possible he could have had a few drinks and then eaten his standard dose and died

instant release oxycodone is insane, and they double your tolerance for opiates in like 3 days
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