new skill trees tomorrow + other major updates in new patch
discuss

doesnt really affect me

the patch pretty much is nerfing me (lock) and making rogues pallys hunters even better...fucking hate wow

doing random arenas for points is making me want to get serious about pvp
but donno

maybe in wotlk

and how does the arena system work, you can play as many ranked matches as you want in a week and at the end of the week you get points proportional to your finishing rating as long as you played at least 10 games

as long as you have 30% of the teams total games played, with a minimum of 10 games played on the team.

the points are distributed based on your team rating, say you have a 1600 raited 2v2 team, you get 353 points that weak.

3v3 teams and 5v5 teams get more points for the same raiting, but you only get points from 1 team per week

so its possible to go 1500-2200 in a week if youve got the skill
interesting

and im leveling a frost mage right now

level 41

doubt u will be able to get 2200 by expansion

im not trying to, just sayin that its possible

been doing some pvp on my druid who i havent played much in the past 2 months when i was leveling priest/etc
shits fun when i can actually rape people and bg is decent so we dont lose every time

bg wise for farming honor
dont bother with AV unless it's a premade
stick ot eots AB really, but sometimes av is good
wsg is jsut gay

doing ab
just stealthing around to fights, picking targets and raping them

thats the way to go!

i'm basically bored of pvp so im try and get t6 before expansion

1v1 i rape warriors, rogues, priests, shaman, hunters, other druids
do ok vs paladins and locks
mages rape me

i pretty much rape all 1v1 except rogues

4 piece feral set bonus + move speed of cat/travel is what makes it fun i think

yeah full pve geared feral druids hit like trucks

wish i had s4 staff and more dps gear instead of tank shit
would be n1

oh shit i guess i am gonna be effected by new talent trees if i keep playing this druid
hello feral buffs ofc

ya
blizz is buffing up melee and nerfing spell dmg

euh

just buffing the classes/specs that are unused

meh
iso more badges

ya ofc
i wish av on all my servers didnt suck so i could get some nice honor
probably going to farm up the s2 feral mace

good choice

raping people without resilience
crit chance is vn1 when you stack agility for tanking

oh and supposedly druid weapon enchants will be able to proc in this patch
so hello mongoose cya 35 agi

wish i could pay for an honor grinding job but still play my char whilst

ugh, the patch is 1.2 gigs and is taking for ever to dl

mine went from 0 to 1.12gb in like 15 seconds
then took 5 minutes to get the last .08gb

Druids
Brambles (Balance): Now increases the damage done by your Treants, and also damage caused from your Treants and Barkskin has a 5/10/15% chance to Daze the target for 3 sec.
Celestial Focus (Balance): The stun proc now works with Starfall. This talent no longer has Wrath pushback protection, but instead increases your total spell haste by 1/2/3%.
Challenging Roar now has a 3 minute cooldown, reduced from 10 minutes.
Control of Nature (Balance) has been removed.
Entangling Roots: Can now be used indoors.
Faerie Fire (Feral): Now an 11-point talent, down from being a 21-point talent.
Feral Charge (Feral) is now a 21-point talent, up from being a 11-point talent.
Feral Charge (Feral): Can now be used in Cat form.
Feral Instinct (Feral) no longer increases threat generated in Bear form, but now increases damage done by your Swipe ability by 5/10/15%.
Feral Swiftness: The movement speed buff can now be used indoors.
Focused Starlight (Balance)is now Nature's Majesty (Balance): Increases the critical strike chance of your Wrath, Starfire, Starfall, Nourish, and Healing Touch spells by 2/4/6%.
Force of Nature (Balance): Cooldown reduced to 2 minutes, down from 3.
Furor (Restoration): Now increases your total Intellect while in Moonkin form by 2/4/6/8/10%.
Hurricane: No longer has a cooldown (was 1 minute).
Improved Faerie Fire (Feral): Now also works with spell hit, in addition to ranged and melee hit %.
Improved Mark of the Wild (Restoration): Now a 2-point talent, down from a 5-point talent.
Improved Tranquility (Restoration): Now also reduces the cooldown of your Tranquility spell by 25/50%.
Mangle (Feral): Now increases the damage done by Maul in addition to Shred.
Moonglow (Balance): Now also works with Starfall. Moved to tier 2, up from tier 5.
Moonkin Form (Balance) no longer increases your attack power or causes you to regenerate mana off melee attacks, but now has a chance to cause you to instantly regenerate 2% of your total mana every time you critically hit with a spell.
Nature's Focus (Restoration): Now a 3 point talent, down from a 5-point talent. Also moved to Tier 1, up from Tier 2. Now also includes Nourish, Entangling Roots, Wrath, and Cyclone.
Nature's Grace (Balance): Now also reduces the global cooldown of your Wrath spell by 50% while in effect.
Nature's Grasp (Balance): Can now be used and can proc indoors. This is now a base ability at level 11 and has a 100% chance to proc.
Nature's Reach (Balance): Now also reduces threat generated by Balance spells by 15/30%.
New Spell: Revive - Returns the spirit to the body, restoring a dead target to life with health and mana. Cannot be cast when in combat. (Ranks 1-7 added)
New Talent - Genesis (Balance): Increases the damage and healing done by your periodic spells by 1/2/3/4/5%.
New Talent - Improved Insect Swarm (Balance): Increases your damage done by your Wrath spell to targets afflicted by your Insect Swarm by 1/2/3%, and increases the critical strike chance of your Starfire spell by 1/2/3% on targets afflicted by your Moonfire spell.
New Talent - Mother Bear (Feral): Increases the bonus attack power for Bear Form and Dire Bear Form by an additional 20/40/60%, and for each friendly player in your party, damage you take is reduced while in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form by 1/2/3%.
New Talent - Natural Reaction (Feral): Increases your dodge chance while in Bear Form or Dire Bear Form by 2/4/6%, and you regenerate 1/2/3 rage everytime you dodge while in Bear Form or Dire Bear Form.
New Talent - Nature's Splendor (Balance): Increases the duration of your Moonfire, Insect Swarm, Rejuvenation, Regrowth, Lifebloom and Flourish spells by 10/20/30%.
Omen of Clarity (Restoration): Now a passive spell. Now also works for spells (healing and damage). Proc rate is roughly 6% with a 10 second internal cooldown.
Primal Tenacity (Feral) now reduces damage while stunned by 5/10/15%, and reduces the duration of fear effects by 5/10/15%.
Remove Curse can now be used in Tree of Life form.
Soothe Animal can now be used on Dragonkin as well as Beasts.
Soothe Animal is now instant cast.
Subtlety (Restoration): Now a 3-point talent, down from a 5-point talent. Also moved to Tier 2, up from Tier 3. Also now only reduced threat for Restoration spells, and reduces the chance that your healing over time spells (Lifebloom, Regrowth and Rejuvenation) will be dispelled, rather than all Druid spells. Threat management for Balance can now be found in the Balance tree, within Nature's Reach.
Survival of the Fittest (Feral): Increased to 2/4/6%, up from 1/2/3%.
The mana regeneration penalty when in Bear Form, Dire Bear Form and Cat Form has been removed.
Tranquil Spirit (Restoration) now also includes Nourish.
Tree of Life (Restoration): 30% snare penalty has been removed.
Tree of Life (Restoration): Can now cast Dispel Curse.
Tree of Life (Restoration): You can now cast all Restoration spells (Healing Touch) in the form, but Tree of Life now only reduces the mana cost of your healing over time spells (Rejuvenation, Lifebloom, Regrowth and Flourish) by 20%.
Vengeance (Balance): Now also works with Starfall.

these are vn1, probably best is feral swiftness, in cat form with my feral set bonus i run as fast as a normal ground mount at all times

Feral Charge (Feral): Can now be used in Cat form.
Feral Swiftness: The movement speed buff can now be used indoors.
New Spell: Revive - Returns the spirit to the body, restoring a dead target to life with health and mana. Cannot be cast when in combat. (Ranks 1-7 added)
New Talent - Mother Bear (Feral): Increases the bonus attack power for Bear Form and Dire Bear Form by an additional 20/40/60%, and for each friendly player in your party, damage you take is reduced while in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form by 1/2/3%.
New Talent - Natural Reaction (Feral): Increases your dodge chance while in Bear Form or Dire Bear Form by 2/4/6%, and you regenerate 1/2/3 rage everytime you dodge while in Bear Form or Dire Bear Form.

priest updates are

Shadowform (Shadow): Now has an innate 30% threat reduction. Now has a shapeshift UI.
is cool though

lolrogues
Mace Specialization (Combat) no longer stuns enemiesnow ignores 3/6/9/12/15% of target's armor.

oh and T4T Druids and Shaman can now use items while shapeshifted.

taking quite a long time to install why that is

for some reason its reinstalling wow to a new location on my pc

LOL
mine just spiked from 16% to 63% installed when i wasnt paying attention

i'm at 9%

feral staff that drops from kel thuzad in 10 man naxx has twice the feral AP of the current best staff in game

and t7 shit is just a bunch of

meh
much about druids

link to t7?

the pve gear for feral druids actually looks like it may be able to compare with pvp gear
for pveing

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=15119.0

about half way down the page
i did see a more updates page of it that had the 25 man t7, but cant find it any more

oh and gn8 amani war bear as of today

lol theres another 400mb patch after the 1.2gb one installs

TBC instances getting nerfed
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=18788.0

last night on my server trade chat was all guilds trying to sell a war bear