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#554874 | Thu - Jun 11 2009 - 21:51:18
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Flame Leviathan (No Towers): http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2912 and http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2906
No deaths, +1 for Conqueror of Ulduar

XT-002: http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2932, new record time
We used the "glitch" strategy tanking him in between scrap bot piles, that works fantastically better.
No deaths, +1 for Conqueror of Ulduar

Kologarn: 1 shot, new record time

Auriaya: 1 shot, new record time

Freya: 1 wipe, someone aggro'd Freya early, screwed us on a terrific start, made it to 400k and wiped; new record time (2nd attempt)

Thorim: 1 wipe, bad arena (hallway needs to get there faster); 2nd attempt MT & OT went down, myself & a Druid swapping to Bear on the fly finished it off at 17 stacks, a very nice save

Hodir: 1 wipe, had to call it on time, people don't seem to know how to get out of Flash Freeze, this is not complicated

Best first night before this was 5 bosses.
 
#554889 | Thu - Jun 11 2009 - 22:08:36
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holy shit 17 stacks?
our tanks are getting one-shot at 9 stacks
 
#554891 | Thu - Jun 11 2009 - 22:09:04
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what exactly is Heroic:Unbroken?
 
#554915 | Thu - Jun 11 2009 - 22:17:59
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Jun 11 2009 - 22:08:36)
holy shit 17 stacks?
our tanks are getting one-shot at 9 stacks


Swapped to Frost & was tanking with PRO cooldowns. Warrior & Paladin both went down, :donno: why.

Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Jun 11 2009 - 22:09:04)
what exactly is Heroic:Unbroken?


Tooltip says, "Defeat Flame Leviathan on the first try without anyone repairing their vehicle on Heroic Difficulty". As long as you stay away from the Spiders, and take care of the Helicopters quickly, it's very, very easy.

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#557733 | Sun - Jun 14 2009 - 22:00:35
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Hodir: Numerous wipes; looks like we have some positioning down much better towards the end, new record time

Mimiron: 2 wipes

Ignis: 1 shot, no World Carver

Razorscale: 1 wipe, (working on getting our Dwarf achievement, apparently DPS didn't understand to kill the first few packs)

General Vezax tomorrow night, I will be tanking, still using Titansteel Destroyer, in before the Hunters & Mages pull Aggro and yell at me.
 
#557788 | Sun - Jun 14 2009 - 23:09:19
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like 20 people showed up so no raid tonight
 
#557799 | Sun - Jun 14 2009 - 23:18:32
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Quote (MoS. @ Sun - Jun 14 2009 - 23:00:35)
Hodir: Numerous wipes; looks like we have some positioning down much better towards the end, new record time

Mimiron: 2 wipes

Ignis: 1 shot, no World Carver

Razorscale: 1 wipe, (working on getting our Dwarf achievement, apparently DPS didn't understand to kill the first few packs)

General Vezax tomorrow night, I will be tanking, still using Titansteel Destroyer, in before the Hunters & Mages pull Aggro and yell at me.


lol
yeah i dont know what to tell you about that one
 
#557801 | Sun - Jun 14 2009 - 23:20:17
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Quote (randomtask @ Sun - Jun 14 2009 - 23:18:32)
Quote (MoS. @ Sun - Jun 14 2009 - 23:00:35)
Hodir: Numerous wipes; looks like we have some positioning down much better towards the end, new record time

Mimiron: 2 wipes

Ignis: 1 shot, no World Carver

Razorscale: 1 wipe, (working on getting our Dwarf achievement, apparently DPS didn't understand to kill the first few packs)

General Vezax tomorrow night, I will be tanking, still using Titansteel Destroyer, in before the Hunters & Mages pull Aggro and yell at me.


lol
yeah i dont know what to tell you about that one


Keep running Naxx 25 (OfC)

Looks like the guild might be trying to get a 2nd Ulduar 10 up and running, I will for sure be in that one. I wonder if I can roll on DPS gear, I need to improve that gear.
 
#557904 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 11:46:25
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Need to figure out if I should drop some of my Stamina gems for threat gems for Vezax.

I think there will be an MD rotation and hopefully some other aggro boosting abilities on me.
 
#557912 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 13:40:11
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proalbey should if you think its worth it

max hp for tanking vezax shouldnt matter much, its all about mitigation due to the fact that its an endurance fight

youll be sitting and tanking him during surge instead of kiting right? icebound fort on every surge should keep you alive just fine
 
#557913 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 13:41:10
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its ok to not kite vezax now? or is that just a dk thing.
 
#557915 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 13:46:11
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 14:41:10)
its ok to not kite vezax now?  or is that just a dk thing.


just a dk thing
they have tanking cds that are short enough to be used on every surge
 
#557916 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 13:46:59
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(maybe) a different class could tank it like that if he was alternated cd's from the healers, but using a dk is just easier
 
#557918 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 13:50:31
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Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 13:40:11)
proalbey should if you think its worth it

max hp for tanking vezax shouldnt matter much, its all about mitigation due to the fact that its an endurance fight

youll be sitting and tanking him during surge instead of kiting right?  icebound fort on every surge should keep you alive just fine


We'll be stationary.

I'm proalbey going to need to regem everything I have, I just tried putting in 6 Guardian's Twilight Opals to see what that improved, not much, and then 6 Delicate Scarlet Rubies, still, not much. Going to try to swap out my JC Stamina gems for Expertise gems now.

The dodge & parry isn't what I'm worried about, it's the parry haste hits and the Expertise I need to avoid them as well as the added threat more Expertise will give me.

I've also got two tanking Macro's for this, the first time I've done that since I was first learning to tank and thought using all of my cool downs on one Macro was a good idea.

Icebound Fortitude
Figuring - Monarch Crab (Dodge Trinket)
Heart of Iron (Dodge Trinket)

Icebound Fortitude
Unbreakable Armor
Figurine - Monarch Crab (Dodge Trinket)

Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 13:41:10)
its ok to not kite vezax now?  or is that just a dk thing.


On 25 man it's a DK thing (unless you have certain Glyphs & Talents as a Warrior or an effective combination of outside cool downs). The reason is that the hits right before & after Surge of Darkness paired up with a hit or two under Surge of Darkness can kill Warriors since their cool downs are 10 seconds, and depending on when they are cast, you might be too early/late.

The cool downs on my DK last longer and are only one a 60 second cool down, which can be used for every Surge.

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#557948 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 17:09:50
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Life down from about 35k with Stamina gems to about 32k with Expertise gems. Total with Rhinolicious Wormmmeat food is 33 Expertise.

Khornne in Umbral Sect has 33 Expertise, but it's from his gear, 8-9 from his Weapon, 5 from his ring, and about 8 from his pants.

Important upgrades & things to shoot for:
Pants from Malygos 25
Weapon from Ignis 25 or random Naxx 25 drop
Weapon from Ulduar 10
Ring from Auriaya 25

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#558005 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 19:56:03
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Interrupt Rotation:
1. DK / Warrior
2. DK / Shaman
3. DK / Rogue
>>I AM NOT ON INTERRUPTS<< - Thank God

Still struggling here...

Raid Leader (Hunter) is not pleased.

Ranged are not understanding simple directions where to run, right for Shadow Crash, left for Mark of the Faceless...

60 minutes until trash respawn, in before fail to Vezax again.

This is some ridiculous PUG sort of explanation we're doing right now. This is some babysitting that shouldn't be needed.

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#558092 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:13:56
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Quote (MoS. @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:56:03)
Interrupt Rotation:
1.  DK / Warrior
2.  DK / Shaman
3.  DK / Rogue
>>I AM NOT ON INTERRUPTS<< - Thank God

Still struggling here...

Raid Leader (Hunter) is not pleased.

Ranged are not understanding simple directions where to run, right for Shadow Crash, left for Mark of the Faceless...

60 minutes until trash respawn, in before fail to Vezax again.

This is some ridiculous PUG sort of explanation we're doing right now.  This is some babysitting that shouldn't be needed.


the amount of retardation we encountered whilst working on vezax was at a level i thought unthinkable
 
#558101 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:18:08
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Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:13:56)
Quote (MoS. @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:56:03)
Interrupt Rotation:
1.  DK / Warrior
2.  DK / Shaman
3.  DK / Rogue
>>I AM NOT ON INTERRUPTS<< - Thank God

Still struggling here...

Raid Leader (Hunter) is not pleased.

Ranged are not understanding simple directions where to run, right for Shadow Crash, left for Mark of the Faceless...

60 minutes until trash respawn, in before fail to Vezax again.

This is some ridiculous PUG sort of explanation we're doing right now.  This is some babysitting that shouldn't be needed.


the amount of retardation we encountered whilst working on vezax was at a level i thought unthinkable


Okay, glad to hear this isn't completely an isolated situation.

I'm really starting to love Recount more & more during these run backs.

Interrupters are making their own channel since some of them use retarded chat mods and apparently can't hear in Ventrilo when their name is called out. I forgot that are min/max - theorycrafting DK doesn't know how to make a macro...

Apparently the designated spot for Shadow Crashes & Mark of the Faceless is too confusing, left & right once again are hard.

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#558109 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:26:10
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Quote (MoS. @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 18:18:08)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:13:56)
Quote (MoS. @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:56:03)
Interrupt Rotation:
1.  DK / Warrior
2.  DK / Shaman
3.  DK / Rogue
>>I AM NOT ON INTERRUPTS<< - Thank God

Still struggling here...

Raid Leader (Hunter) is not pleased.

Ranged are not understanding simple directions where to run, right for Shadow Crash, left for Mark of the Faceless...

60 minutes until trash respawn, in before fail to Vezax again.

This is some ridiculous PUG sort of explanation we're doing right now.  This is some babysitting that shouldn't be needed.


the amount of retardation we encountered whilst working on vezax was at a level i thought unthinkable


Okay, glad to hear this isn't completely an isolated situation.

I'm really starting to love Recount more & more during these run backs.

Interrupters are making their own channel since some of them use retarded chat mods and apparently can't hear in Ventrilo when their name is called out.


stupid unreal sounds
 
#558111 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:36:44
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If you get Mark of the Faceless while you are running out of Shadow Crash with the group, common sense says to go the other way, even if the designated area is running back the other way with the group...
 
#558112 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:46:27
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ya its proalbey more effective to just tell mark of the faceless to GTFO the group
 
#558113 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:47:07
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and theres no problem with spreading everyone around the room, you dont need the whole group in shadow crashes at all times
his enrage is very long
 
#558118 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:53:35
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It feels like there is absolutely no progress being made. I am also dying to melee swings well outside of Surges (I'm not sure if that's because a healer is busy healing a ranged, whatever the boss does to hit me very hard from dodges/parries back to back [etc])...
 
#558120 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 21:04:50
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Best attempt so far 50%
 
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Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 20:47:07)
and theres no problem with spreading everyone around the room, you dont need the whole group in shadow crashes at all times
his enrage is very long


We tried that last week, was bad, doing it all with everyone in one ranged group moving. Healers & melee are in their own groups on different sides of the boss.
 
#558138 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 21:54:52
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got hard thorim down finally

its absolutely retarded how rape mc'ing the adds is

me and the other spriest were #3 and #4 on dps with 6k each

stacking spriests would make it so trivial
 
#558139 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 21:58:30
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Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:54:52)
got hard thorim down finally

its absolutely retarded how rape mc'ing the adds is

me and the other spriest were #3 and #4 on dps with 6k each

stacking spriests would make it so trivial


plus each add mc'd gives a raid wide stacking 20% haste buff which is why its good
 
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Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 21:58:30)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:54:52)
got hard thorim down finally

its absolutely retarded how rape mc'ing the adds is

me and the other spriest were #3 and #4 on dps with 6k each

stacking spriests would make it so trivial


plus each add mc'd gives a raid wide stacking 20% haste buff which is why its good


What do the adds do? Damage Thorim? I know about the buff.
 
#558151 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:15:22
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Quote (MoS. @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:10:23)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 21:58:30)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:54:52)
got hard thorim down finally

its absolutely retarded how rape mc'ing the adds is

me and the other spriest were #3 and #4 on dps with 6k each

stacking spriests would make it so trivial


plus each add mc'd gives a raid wide stacking 20% haste buff which is why its good


What do the adds do? Damage Thorim? I know about the buff.


same as any other mind controlled unit

use them to dps ofceci

how many spriests do you have in your runs usually?
 
#558154 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:22:58
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Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:15:22)
Quote (MoS. @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:10:23)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 21:58:30)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:54:52)
got hard thorim down finally

its absolutely retarded how rape mc'ing the adds is

me and the other spriest were #3 and #4 on dps with 6k each

stacking spriests would make it so trivial


plus each add mc'd gives a raid wide stacking 20% haste buff which is why its good


What do the adds do? Damage Thorim? I know about the buff.


same as any other mind controlled unit

use them to dps ofceci

how many spriests do you have in your runs usually?


Zero.
 
#558155 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:34:37
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LOL
 
#558160 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:11:12
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Quote (MoS. @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:22:58)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:15:22)
Quote (MoS. @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:10:23)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 21:58:30)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 22:54:52)
got hard thorim down finally

its absolutely retarded how rape mc'ing the adds is

me and the other spriest were #3 and #4 on dps with 6k each

stacking spriests would make it so trivial


plus each add mc'd gives a raid wide stacking 20% haste buff which is why its good


What do the adds do? Damage Thorim? I know about the buff.


same as any other mind controlled unit

use them to dps ofceci

how many spriests do you have in your runs usually?


Zero.


i see a problem m9
 
#558161 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:11:42
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what about boomkins
 
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Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:11:42)
what about boomkins


1
 
#558167 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:20:32
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Quote (MoS. @ Tue - Jun 16 2009 - 00:16:02)
Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:11:42)
what about boomkins


1


does your guild do WMO/WWS/WOL logs?
 
#558180 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:31:18
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Tank's
1 Warrior
2 Paladin
3 DK

Melee DPS
1 DK
2 DK
3 DK
4 Druid
5 Warrior
6 Rogue

Ranged DPS
1 Hunter
2 Hunter
3 Hunter
4 Mage
5 Mage
6 Mage
7 Druid
8 Warlock
9 Warlock

Healers
1 Shaman
2 Shaman
3 Paladin
4 Paladin
5 Priest
6 Druid
7 Druid

Looks about right off the top of my head.

http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/981/

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#558198 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:55:54
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ehh i cant tell shit from that site, its p bad
 
#558199 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:56:07
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we are using WMO atm i think
 
#558200 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:57:50
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i liked WWS, but WMO is much more detailed
 
#558201 | Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:58:32
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no conq shoulders off yogg again
we have had 1 pair total, lol
 
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Quote (randomtask @ Mon - Jun 15 2009 - 23:57:50)
i liked WWS, but WMO is much more detailed


It's really useful once you get used to it, like the others.

I think we use all 3.
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