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#572420 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 12:41:25
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#572422 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 12:43:05
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The warrior class has been a very tricky one to balance, largely due to the way rage converts into damage (which converts into rage, which converts into damage...), and we haven't completely nailed that design just yet.



nice to know as wow has been out for nearing 5 years now
 
#572429 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 12:56:08
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my comments on the beginning of the pvp discussion regarding warriors relying on healers

i think it would be very nice to have some sort of lifeleech/life on killing blow for pvp, doesnt have to be a lot, maybe have it function like last stand to where you lose the life after x amount of seconds

a straight leech mechanic would be cool for fury to bump it up to being a remotely viable pvp spec
arms, dunno, they would have to nerf us more to allow for any healing i think
 
#572430 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 12:57:42
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and oh, thats the only thing they answered about pvp, and thats the end of the post

how delightfully disappointing
 
#572431 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 12:58:40
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barely even worth reading that post
its all shit we have heard before
 
#572433 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 13:01:10
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warriors were the only tanks in vanilla
warriors were pvp powerhouses in bc
stances are good
we need to fix rage
shouts shouldnt be buffs
dk tanks were op
warrior pve dps is low
block value sucks
we are buffing block value
lots of warrior mechanics are old and broken, we will fix them later
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#572434 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 13:02:50
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p much a letdown, hopefully the priest one introduces some original thought, becuase priests have basically been ignored alltogether so far regarding 3.2 changes
 
#572454 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 13:52:40
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this does not please me
 
#572456 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 13:55:21
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Fury is supposed to be about screaming barbarians in woad.

:donno: but i like it
 
#572463 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:05:35
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:55:21)
Fury is supposed to be about screaming barbarians in woad.

:donno: but i like it


wild out of control screaming furious barbarian troll in the outdoors chaotic battlefield wilderness
 
#572464 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:05:50
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just zerkcies'ing around
 
#572472 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:27:56
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:05:35)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:55:21)
Fury is supposed to be about screaming barbarians in woad.

:donno: but i like it


wild out of control screaming furious barbarian troll in the outdoors chaotic battlefield wilderness


 
#572475 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:34:19
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Q. What is the reasoning behind their short duration and do we have plans to improve the duration similar to the buffs other classes already provide?

A. The shouts are supposed to be buttons that warriors push in combat. They aren't intended to be pre-fight buffs like Arcane Intellect or Prayer of Fortitude. We had a discussion about this recently and decided with glyphs and talents that the duration isn't a problem. If you lack Booming Voice and the minor Battle Shout glyph, it might be more annoying.



lolwat
 
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Q. What is the reasoning behind their short duration and do we have plans to improve the duration similar to the buffs other classes already provide?

A. The shouts are supposed to be buttons that warriors push in combat. They aren't intended to be pre-fight buffs like Arcane Intellect or Prayer of Fortitude. We had a discussion about this recently and decided with glyphs and talents that the duration isn't a problem. If you lack Booming Voice and the minor Battle Shout glyph, it might be more annoying.

they have been saying that for over a year now, donno who still doesnt get it

lolwat


 
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Q. What is the reasoning behind their short duration and do we have plans to improve the duration similar to the buffs other classes already provide?

A. The shouts are supposed to be buttons that warriors push in combat. They aren't intended to be pre-fight buffs like Arcane Intellect or Prayer of Fortitude. We had a discussion about this recently and decided with glyphs and talents that the duration isn't a problem. If you lack Booming Voice and the minor Battle Shout glyph, it might be more annoying.

they have been saying that for over a year now, donno who still doesnt get it

lolwat


they have been saying that for over a year now, donno who still doesnt get it
 
#572482 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:44:30
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pushing in combat is lol, especially when bs has zero value (might) and cs is marginally better than blood pact (i mean an extra k of life is gr8, but its not really anything to write home to mom about)

ie battle shouts are only for your solo activities
 
#572487 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:46:17
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pushing in combat is lol, especially when bs has zero value (might) and cs is marginally better than blood pact (i mean an extra k of life is gr8, but its not really anything to write home to mom about)

ie battle shouts are only for your solo activities


anything other than 25 main raid activities*
 
#572491 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:52:12
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hard modes of most of the coliseum fights are going up for tanking this weekend

patch cant be far off
 
#572492 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:52:57
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gonna guess august 4th for patch day
 
#572493 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:53:17
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well, maybe not that soon
 
#572494 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:53:26
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august 11th
 
#572495 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:53:47
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august 11th


anyone place bets?
 
#572498 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:55:09
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warrior rage should be balanced out to DK runic power a bit, DKs shoot up to 100 in no time and it takes 500000 hours for it to decay

warriors are like EUHHH LOLOL ISO RAGE
 
#572499 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:55:19
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which as a result makes us rage IRL
 
#572500 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:56:30
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not really whenst tanking
 
#572501 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:56:44
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i go from like 30 to 100 rage in one gcd when tanking big bosses
 
#572502 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:57:07
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and stay at 100 for some time even when spamming heroic strike on every cd + shield slam/revenge/etc
 
#572504 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:58:02
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thought we were discussing pvp here
 
#572505 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:58:19
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me and :joe: need better tanking weapons though

2.6 speed = not enough heroic strikes
 
#572506 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:58:36
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talking about warriors in general i guess
 
#572507 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:00:17
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in arenas ya, if i have rage for MS+overpower then whirlwind, ill be at 100 rage when coming out of whirlwind, then hitting overpower proc immediately after and spamming the shit out of execute = dead healers

otherwise i can chase them around the arena whilst i barely have the rage for hamstring+rend+overpower on procs for meni long time until i score a N1 crit that gives me 40 some rage

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#572509 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:00:37
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thats p close to blizzcon
im guessing after
 
#572525 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:13:00
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 14:58:19)
me and :joe: and Sir Moximoose Von Hollywood need better tanking weapons though


 
#572528 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:14:52
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Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 16:00:37)
thats p close to blizzcon
im guessing after


euhhh maybe
if they wait until after blizzcon theres going to be a lot of people bitching about whats taking so long
 
#572529 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:15:16
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if they release it right before blizzcon, theres gonna be a lot of people bitching about whatever they did wrong in the patch
 
#572532 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:17:55
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your weapon speed doesnt affect half of your threat generation though
 
#572533 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:18:20
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your weapon speed doesnt affect half of your threat generation though


og;dc
 
#572534 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:19:13
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2.6 to 1.5 weapon is nearly-ish to double the amount of heroic strikes
 
#572537 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:20:08
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so we can smack the hotkey that much faster
 
#572539 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:20:35
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1q2q3q2q1q1q3q2q1q1q2q3q1q1q
 
#572541 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:21:10
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and e every once in a while
 
#572544 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:21:42
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with a 1.5 weapon it would be

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#572545 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:22:10
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or just 1qq3q2qq32q2q3q1qq1qq32q3qq3qq2q3q1qq1q3qq2q13q2q1q32q1q32q1q32q1q2q13q21q32q1q2q1q32q1q2q1q3q1qq1qq
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#572546 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:22:12
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heroic strikes suck
 
#572548 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:22:38
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IF YOU START TO LOSE AGGRO, START MASHING HEROIC STRIKE FASTER
 
#572549 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:22:46
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^ that is warriors solution
 
#572552 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:23:49
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although this sword is p much better than fang of truthlol
 
#572553 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:24:09
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iso MTing a good naxx 25 again next week so i can win a last laugh
 
#572556 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:24:39
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i dont use heroic strike
 
#572557 | Thu - Jul 16 2009 - 15:24:41
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more dk tanks that dont need it pliz
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