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#615589 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 17:50:29
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#615594 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 18:23:13
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so instead of just saying how shitty things are, how should wrath have balanced allowing everyone the chance to raid every encounter and still have things hard enough for the progressive guilds?


:donno:


everyone shouldn't have the chance to raid every encounter

or if they should they need to make it more linearly based ie you need to do ulduar normal to do ulduar hms which are needed for toc which is needed for toc hms

you shouldn't be able to skip right to toc from heroics, which is what you can do now

conquest badges from heroics screwed it all up by giving gear above naxx gear level


but then you exclude a huge chunk of your subscriber base from raiding, from experiencing the largest draw of the game. there is a reason wow continues to grow, and thats because everyone can do most aspects. if the goal is having tier some casual does not then we just dont see eye to eye. i enjoy that hms are there. but i think we find that since everyone gets purples that people dont value them as much. but the true best in slot items should only come from hms, and that should be the true gauge, not tier items. and since achievements dont drop the very best of the best we find that many of those who want hard shit dont really want hard shit, they want exclusive shit, which i dont agree with.
 
#615595 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 18:28:39
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what im trying to say is the "harder" raids are their, but most dont do it because deep down what they want is exclusive loot, which wow has fucked up by not making true bis items from only hms. and multiple levels of tier is gay.
 
#615607 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 19:24:11
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i might just be the original elitist here, but in classic there were huge chunks of hte player base who never got past zg/mc/early bwl and the subsription count was still enormous
 
#615608 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 19:25:00
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there's enough shit to do in this game that raiding doesn't have to be the supreme goal of your gameplay experience imo
 
#615609 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 19:25:41
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thats why you can get ilvl 258 or whatever from arena
 
#615613 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 20:04:49
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Quote (lobb @ Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 18:49:06)
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so instead of just saying how shitty things are, how should wrath have balanced allowing everyone the chance to raid every encounter and still have things hard enough for the progressive guilds?


:donno:


everyone shouldn't have the chance to raid every encounter

or if they should they need to make it more linearly based ie you need to do ulduar normal to do ulduar hms which are needed for toc which is needed for toc hms

you shouldn't be able to skip right to toc from heroics, which is what you can do now

conquest badges from heroics screwed it all up by giving gear above naxx gear level


yes, thats what i was saying for a few posts here

if they make everything piss easy, they dont need to hand out gear, thats what progression is

 
#615621 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 21:45:28
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they are proalbey just trying to put wrath on cruse control till cataclysm cauz they realized wrath sucks hardcore.
 
#615622 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 21:50:10
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Quote (boblong11 @ Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 22:45:28)
they are proalbey just trying to put wrath on cruse control till cataclysm cauz they realized wrath sucks hardcore.


you are like the exact crowd they are marketing to but somehow you dont like it
 
#615624 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 21:54:28
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 22:50:10)
Quote (boblong11 @ Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 22:45:28)
they are proalbey just trying to put wrath on cruse control till cataclysm cauz they realized wrath sucks hardcore.


you are like the exact crowd they are marketing to but somehow you dont like it


 
#615652 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 23:21:07
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 22:50:10)
Quote (boblong11 @ Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 22:45:28)
they are proalbey just trying to put wrath on cruse control till cataclysm cauz they realized wrath sucks hardcore.


you are like the exact crowd they are marketing to but somehow you dont like it


donno m8
would rather it be hard so the shitty guilds don't exist and we can do Hard Modes
 
#615657 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 23:25:49
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Quote (randomtask @ Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 17:04:49)
Quote (lobb @ Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 18:49:06)
Quote (blind_chief @ Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 07:16:50)
so instead of just saying how shitty things are, how should wrath have balanced allowing everyone the chance to raid every encounter and still have things hard enough for the progressive guilds?


:donno:


everyone shouldn't have the chance to raid every encounter

or if they should they need to make it more linearly based ie you need to do ulduar normal to do ulduar hms which are needed for toc which is needed for toc hms

you shouldn't be able to skip right to toc from heroics, which is what you can do now

conquest badges from heroics screwed it all up by giving gear above naxx gear level


yes, thats what i was saying for a few posts here

if they make everything piss easy, they dont need to hand out gear, thats what progression is


yes, i'm p much agreeing with you on nearly every count

 
#615662 | Thu - Oct 8 2009 - 23:46:40
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going back to my original comment, wrath went too far with how gear scaled, thus forcing them to make gear available to everyone to experience all content
and yes, everyone should be able to set foot into a raid. not down it entirely, but enter it and get a kill or 2. they did what they had to do so there was never another naxx/swp, where no one downed it. thats what made it great, but thats also time and money spent on an aspect of the game that nearly no one could enjoy.

for those that want something exclusive, thats hms? granted, wrath only has 2 raids. thats shitty. and naxx as the only raid for 6 months is bad.
 
#615729 | Fri - Oct 9 2009 - 10:37:52
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# Instead of the nameplates trying to sort themselves, they just overlap. We think this makes them more useful for very large groups (example: Onyxia whelps).


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i fucking hate that nameplates are always moving around as the tank moves to grab everything (a la thorim arena). this may allow me to not despise name plates as much (i really only use them on razorscale trash and throim arena, big nn other places). still iso a way to make the plates much much smaller.
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