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#813362 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 01:42:55
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#813365 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 02:10:06
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thank god, this swine flu is killing me
 
#813368 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 03:47:02
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the fuck is this

the fuck is that
 
#813375 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:03:52
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flu shots arent even effective
 
#813377 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:58:06
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Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 06:03:52)
flu shots arent even effective


75% effective
i guess its perspective

This post has been edited by blind_chief on Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:59:00
 
#813384 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 10:32:15
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:58:06)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 06:03:52)
flu shots arent even effective


75% effective
i guess its perspective


poop statistic without citing it, cool bro

while youre at it poop a wikipedia article so i can destroy you with clinical trial data
 
#813385 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 10:35:20
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Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:32:15)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:58:06)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 06:03:52)
flu shots arent even effective


75% effective
i guess its perspective


poop statistic without citing it, cool bro

while youre at it poop a wikipedia article so i can destroy you with clinical trial data


npr interviewed the dude who is a part of the research, i seem to remember him using 60%, clearly 75%. i did edit it to 75 after a quick check.
and im certain you have proof of 100% ineffective trials.
so tear me apart bro
 
#813386 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 10:43:21
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 10:35:20)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:32:15)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:58:06)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 06:03:52)
flu shots arent even effective


75% effective
i guess its perspective


poop statistic without citing it, cool bro

while youre at it poop a wikipedia article so i can destroy you with clinical trial data


npr interviewed the dude who is a part of the research, i seem to remember him using 60%, clearly 75%. i did edit it to 75 after a quick check.
and im certain you have proof of 100% ineffective trials.
so tear me apart bro


tell me about the p value
 
#813394 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 11:35:00
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Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:43:21)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 10:35:20)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:32:15)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:58:06)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 06:03:52)
flu shots arent even effective


75% effective
i guess its perspective


poop statistic without citing it, cool bro

while youre at it poop a wikipedia article so i can destroy you with clinical trial data


npr interviewed the dude who is a part of the research, i seem to remember him using 60%, clearly 75%. i did edit it to 75 after a quick check.
and im certain you have proof of 100% ineffective trials.
so tear me apart bro


tell me about the p value


tell me about your clinical trial data that proves your claims
 
#813397 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 11:44:35
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Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 10:43:21)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 10:35:20)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:32:15)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:58:06)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 06:03:52)
flu shots arent even effective


75% effective
i guess its perspective


poop statistic without citing it, cool bro

while youre at it poop a wikipedia article so i can destroy you with clinical trial data


npr interviewed the dude who is a part of the research, i seem to remember him using 60%, clearly 75%. i did edit it to 75 after a quick check.
and im certain you have proof of 100% ineffective trials.
so tear me apart bro


tell me about the p value


i giggled @ p value

medical is .01 or .001 amirite?
 
#813398 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 11:58:50
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 11:35:00)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:43:21)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 10:35:20)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:32:15)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 08:58:06)
Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 06:03:52)
flu shots arent even effective


75% effective
i guess its perspective


poop statistic without citing it, cool bro

while youre at it poop a wikipedia article so i can destroy you with clinical trial data


npr interviewed the dude who is a part of the research, i seem to remember him using 60%, clearly 75%. i did edit it to 75 after a quick check.
and im certain you have proof of 100% ineffective trials.
so tear me apart bro


tell me about the p value


tell me about your clinical trial data that proves your claims


meta-analysis: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22032844
"moderate protection" "efficacy clearly established in elderly or children" (the only at risk groups for mortality from flu are these people, and ofc the immunocompromised)

so really if you cant suck it up, fuck you
 
#813400 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 12:13:45
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for the record, i dont get flu shots for those exact reasons, im clearly at risk so who cares
and i just, for once, wanted to see of you would actually back up something you were claiming
kudos
 
#813402 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 12:19:28
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 12:13:45)
for the record, i dont get flu shots for those exact reasons, im clearly at risk so who cares
and i just, for once, wanted to see of you would actually back up something you were claiming
kudos


i troll exclusively politics
science is my realm (and evan too)
 
#813403 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 12:39:06
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but still, its clearly that they are 100 ineffective, but rather they potentially dont have the upside many think. there is realistically nothing wrong with getting more antibodies, and if they really could develop a vaccine that covers a range of flus its still seemingly a step in the right direction.

This post has been edited by blind_chief on Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 12:39:17
 
#813405 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 12:44:20
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Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 12:39:06)
but still, its clearly that they are 100 ineffective, but rather they potentially dont have the upside many think.  there is realistically nothing wrong with getting more antibodies, and if they really could develop a vaccine that covers a range of flus its still seemingly a step in the right direction.


right, but the problem is making a flu shot is like pinning the tail on the donkey. they just guess which strains they think will be around, so they can just be completely wrong and make an ineffective flu shot (happens frequently enough)
 
#813411 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 13:55:56
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Quote (Sgull @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 10:44:20)
Quote (blind_chief @ Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 12:39:06)
but still, its clearly that they are 100 ineffective, but rather they potentially dont have the upside many think.  there is realistically nothing wrong with getting more antibodies, and if they really could develop a vaccine that covers a range of flus its still seemingly a step in the right direction.


right, but the problem is making a flu shot is like pinning the tail on the donkey. they just guess which strains they think will be around, so they can just be completely wrong and make an ineffective flu shot (happens frequently enough)


So you didn't read the link? Because your response didn't account for it at all.
 
#813415 | Mon - Nov 7 2011 - 15:06:15
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this is the same reason i dont wear condoms
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