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i cant even tell any more why mine is cheaper than yours

thats damn good for a pc

for having windows 7 and a monitor its awesome, 900 dollars for the build

what power supply did you even use? it does now show it.

also, your insistence on i7 which will benchmark slightly better and uses a slightly lower card, will basically be a wash. i still just want you to try to state why i7 is a must.

power supply is on there, right above the processor

what do you mean slightly lower card

i7-2600 benchmarks significantly higher than i5-2500k

task, my buddy who wants the computer has no interest in gaming. can i make this build cheaper / better for him? he cares clearly about OC'ing and wants to be able to multitask i.e. have every window open at once

yeah, how much cheaper

and by clearly you mean clearly clearly clearly?

non overclockable cpu was $20 cheaper
cant tell what your psu is
$30 on the hd, slower cache

didnt see that for the psu
6850 - 6870 (these are different)

how can you clearly see it in the picture

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ...
Item #: N82E16817139020

oh yeah

i7 and 6850 >>> i5 and 6870

define "significantly"?

i do believe its something like 30%, check that site you linked earlier

thats updated differences

i think 1200-1500 is what hes willing to spend, but he doesnt need a gaming rig. yours looks p good and like a good deal for the parts.

he wants/needs ultrafast processor, good build quality fast mobo with usb 3.0 + room to upgrade, 8 gig ram at least, SSD, windows 7, monitor, basic dvd burner

graphics card he only needs most basic to run regular computing, no games

thats a huge budget for something like that, you could do something crazy like 10 core xeon

after joes build is finished

if you could do a 10 core xeon he would LOVE that

id like to say that in that budget he wants monitor/windows included

i looked at all the charts there, overall suite scores are like 2% better, individual tests vary but still clearly more a few percentage points separate the 2. which one is 30%? I do see that the physics score is the largest difference on some of the benchmarks. there were even a few tests on metro33 that the i5 outperformed the i7.

its like saying a porsche is clearly good because a ferarri is a little faster.

hows this update

thats 1170 after mir and think i fixed everything to how you liked

30% increase is from passmark

what is he using this computer for

6870 outperformes the 6850 by more than what the i7 was outperforming the i5
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon...barts,2776.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-...2500k,2833.html

im fairly happy with what i put together, and if your only gripe is i didnt get i7 and to do that i have to downgrade a few things im ok with that. ive got to go back to work now, t4t the talks ofc
also, you should change to the other asus 24" monitor that is the same price and free shipping, its 50k:1 instead of 20k:1

so the build i had with 6870 and i7 would be 1200 even

what was the after-mir cost of your latest?

also, i7 over i5 will benefit you in more than just game performance

20% on the gaming score, i see that one now
3dmark puts them neck and neck overall
again, im clearly saying the i7 is clearly better, but clearly 100 bucks better, and 120 more for the overclockable version (i want the overclockable version ofc)

ok, now really back to work

but the bundles and discounts absorb that cost so its clearly actually that much

multitasking, watching movies, chemistry software, basic computation, internet, he wants it to be super fast, like clearly take 10 seconds to plot a graph in excel

2nd gen i7 are 300 bucks
3rd gen are 600

dont know how much of a difference, if any, you would realize, it depends what his previous computer was

i still stand by that the 6870 > 6850 more than i7 > i5 due to the limited scenarios that i7 shine compared to the limitless situations that 6870 will shine
you also didnt address the fact that your processor is clearly overclockable and its another 20-30 (cant remember) to get the one that is, so its clearly a fair comparison anyway

limited situations a processor shines compared to unlimited situations a graphics card shines, i dont get it

and you said you wouldnt be overclocking

are you implying that games today, or even in the next year, will even remotely utilize what the i7 has over i5? are you denying that the difference between the benchmarks of 6870 and 6850 are clearly as great or greater than the difference between i7 and i5? (i use benchmarks as a plural because im looking at the total collection of scores, clearly just the one that really highlights one point or another)

i want the option because im sure i will mess around after a bit

a 6850 might be able to run a game at 80 fps that a 6870 might run at 90 fps, whats the difference

a better processor increases the speed of everything your computer does

unless clearly much really utilizes the extra hypertoileting capabilities

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287
another benchmark for i5 v i7, basically 15% increased performance, but less noticeable on games as most are clearly made to utilize the extra toilet capability. older games like wow or even clearly so old games like sc2 the i5 out performs the i7. one of the 3 civ5 tests is a clear example when the i7 kicked the shit out of i5. i just dont think for what i do with a computer (play games) that the additional $100 or w/e is worth it atm when nearly nothing today nor in the next year or so will games take advantage of what the i7 has over the i5.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/540?vs=539
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=291
whereas the 6870 outperformed the 6850 at every test and it was only $20 more, i see no reason to try to shave $20 there, even if only to validate the i7. the 6870 is a no brainer for current cost and performance.

anyway, $1284 minus $40 in MIRs, order is in packaging, should ship today or monday. by next weekend im using a new computer.

but did you get a printer??

i probably got the wrong printer tooooo

order has shipped

take pics when assembled joe

wait what

the answer was the cache size

You mean cashA?

Donno what you got but if you go the cool master 212+ it's kick ass, your case might be to small to house it though and installing it is kinda a pain b/c the instructions are some what unclear and so are most of the youtube videos.

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