http://www.huffingtonpoop.com/2012/07/24/f...tm_hp_ref=media


I hope you love fox news, this seems like something you would do.

the entrepreneurs america deserves

Is this the lemonade stand bullshit?

lets play the worst interpretation game - fox is winning

even taken out of context obama was a retard for saying that

this is fucking stupid. fox is stupid. america is stupid. we're stupid. stupid.

dont let your ego get in the way of reality

meaning that that's an easy way to piss off a lot people people who own/started businesses and could hurt him this close to an election...

especially when he's being out fundraised by romney for the last 3 months

Doesn't matter, gay vote.

just beat me with a rake and then beat me with all the other rakes

pooping in a toilet

i wouldn't be surprised if obama gave aid to those little girls

free government money for everybody! except me

>works at johns hopkins doing research
>does clearly get any federal aid

dont but such a twat

if america was clearly full of uneducated fucking morons then that comment would clearly have bothered anyone

oh, the white, ex ceo, horse dancing, millionaire is out-fundraising the black guy campaigning to the middle class
im shocked

up till now i've been paid from tuition dollars as a TA

starting this fall i guess i will be all by the NIH

time to be a lib

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-574...urora-shooting/

even shooter get federal aid

funny thing with this artikle is that its like a big surprise he was funded from grants.... duh! we are grad students! where else does it come from!

its amazing how stupid you are considering how much you've spent of other people's money to clearly be stupid

money wins elections

Og;dc jp minority vote

Sorry bro, gotta make do with what God gave me

tell that to ross perot

"you people"

http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/ta...chele-bachmann/

"The United States is in grave danger from domestic enemies: Infiltrators from the Muslim Brotherhood have wormed their way into sensitive government positions, Communists wield influence in the House of Representatives, and President Barack Obama hates America and is trying to dismantle, brick by brick, the American Dream."

couldn't have said it better myself

Unless his health care plan gets tweaked, he's going to hurt a HUGE amount of working and middle class individuals. He's also going to essentially kill the staffing industry.

i highly doubt this

Numbers don't lie. As it stands they won't let mid level staffing agencies pool together to have the amount of employees needed to be able to purchase the coverage levels required (from insurance companies)

So what happens? They have to take a fine per employee they have out.

Under the current version of the bill, any employer with over 50 employees will be considered a large employer. As such there is a certain level of coverage that is required, and while most staffing firms offer inexpensive mid-med coverage, it's clearly enough to meet PPACA requirements.

The way the coverage amounts in terms of dollars to the employer stand, no current offering will be cost effective for staffing firms or their clients.

On the flip side, the penalties as an employee for refusing coverage is so low. In fact, only $295. I've yet to see any health insurance offering where the employee can pay so little for insurance coverage, meaning on an individual level, it doesn't make sense to clearly opt out.

Now, what will really be the deterministic factor here are how are they going to define full time employees. There are going to be 2 look back periods, we'll have to wait to see how they use this to determine full time employees, the longer the look back, the more affordable coverage can and should become.

That, and what sort of secondary market (if any) arise from insurers to help smaller businesses who still fall under the "large employer" category as currently defined. It's theorized that the insurance market will offer some coverage that meets the federal minimum standards, but because the temporary staffing workforce is constantly changing (being hired perm, changing assignments, leaving the workforce for periods of time), temporary employees haven’t been considered an attractive market. Meaning I don't see it as something that will honestly change, leading back to staffing firms clearly being able to purchase the appropriate coverage levels, and being forced to pay a fine.

At a possible 2k per employee, you quickly start losing money placing people out.

Refs:

http://www.nfib.com/research-foundation/cr...ividual-mandate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PPACA_Premium_CRS.jpg

While I believe changes will be made leading up to the implementation, there is a long way to go as it stands now. 50 employees is a very, very small number to reach the "large employer" gap. Meaning essentially ALL staffing firms are going to be put there.

This post has been edited by sardoniclysane on Thu - Jul 26 2012 - 20:43:36

clearly reading that

i respect your scenario, though i have no way to put your scenario in an actual relationship to overall scenarios in america. i can only hope that one day this employer-provided insurance platform we currently have will end. health insurance for everyone is important and should be a requirement, but it should clearly fall on employers to provide since all this means is the bigger you are the more advantage you have. and our entire system is predicated on that as it is. but as long as the employer healthcare is the preferred model (preferred because its understood by insurance companies on how to make money when the focus needs to shift to "how to cover everyone and make money") then anything that helps small business compete is good.

the company i work for has under 50 employees, we will be helped. there are countless companies that will benefit from this, but again no one knows how this will all shake out. but you can thank the heritage foundation for thinking up this brainchild 20 years ago.

60% of pg2 toilets in top 50 are jp toilets

cuz most desperate for attention
gz, you have surpassed mos.

burn

clearly reading anything in this toilet

i didnt either, just read first paragraph of joe's link

I AM DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME

tell the truth so that it looks like you are being sarcastic and maybe convincing that it is clearly the truth

oldest trick in the book son, and it don't work

¬( ツ )¬

And here I thought I had managed to steer this topic in a better direction.

Fuck it, let's go look for iceburgs.

WHY ARE WE SINKING THIS SHIP?